Rules question about a spell

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As a newbie to the group, I want to ask this question, since WoTC no longer will provide any rules
clarifications for anything but D&D 3.5:

During the last game session, an argument arose about how the 2nd edition spell stoneskin works. As
the DM I argued that even though the spell blocked the attack, the special ability of level drain
that the undead had would still take effect. The players argued that it would not because the attack
never landed. According to the spell description, magic missile, while it would be absorbed by the
spell would still do damage. In addition to the stoneskin spell, Aid was cast as well. My arguement
about this is that once these spells are cast, if what the players were saying were true, then the
reciepent of the spell no long becomes a valid target for melee, making them immune to any attack
because of the combination of the spells untill the stoneskin wore off. At that time the added 8
points of damage would be subtracted form the total. It was my understanding that the protection
given by stoneskinn lasted until x number of successful attacks occured. The character's AC made it
damn near inpossible for the creatures to hit him except for the undead. Who is right?

 

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On Sun, 05 Sep 2004 01:45:57 GMT, Jay Betbeze <the_goblin@mindspring.com>
wrote:

> As a newbie to the group, I want to ask this question, since WoTC no
> longer will provide any rules
> clarifications for anything but D&D 3.5:
>
> During the last game session, an argument arose about how the 2nd
> edition spell stoneskin works. As
> the DM I argued that even though the spell blocked the attack, the
> special ability of level drain
> that the undead had would still take effect. The players argued that it
> would not because the attack
> never landed.

You're right. Stoneskin protects against all physical type of damage, not
magical effects.

According to the spell description, magic missile, while
> it would be absorbed by the
> spell would still do damage.

Yes. Most magical attacks can penetrate and still do damage to a
Stoneskinned opponent, unless that magical type of attack happens to be
physical in nature, such as Blade Barrier or Mordenkainen's Sword, for
example.

In addition to the stoneskin spell, Aid was
> cast as well. My arguement
> about this is that once these spells are cast, if what the players were
> saying were true, then the
> reciepent of the spell no long becomes a valid target for melee, making
> them immune to any attack
> because of the combination of the spells untill the stoneskin wore off.

No, they're trying to rules trick you.

> At that time the added 8
> points of damage would be subtracted form the total.

Only if the Aid spell lasts longer than the Stoneskin could the character
gain a benefit from the +8 hps, which it can't because Aid only has a
duration of 1 round + 1 round/ level. Casting Aid upon a Stoneskinned
character is redundant. The Stoneskin prevents the +8 from ever being
affected until the Stoneskin is removed, which unless the timing is
impeccable, Aid will expire long before most applications of Stoneskin
ever will.

It was my
> understanding that the protection
> given by stoneskinn lasted until x number of successful attacks occured.

That's right.

> The character's AC made it
> damn near inpossible for the creatures to hit him except for the undead.

The character's AC? Stoneskin should have made it damn near impossible to
hit the character physically, even for undead, which is why undead can't
physically damage a Stoneskinned character, but they can drain energy,
strength, or anything else undead can drain from characters. That's how I
run scenarios like these. HTH.

--
The storm wins initiative, and attacks. -Adlon, describing Hurricane
Charlie.

 

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In article <pprkj0t64nftl8hakn9ljf5kl2ovlmjecf@4ax.com>, the_goblin@mindspring.com wrote without using the
return key:

>As a newbie to the group, I want to ask this question, since WoTC no longer will
>provide any rules clarifications for anything but D&D 3.5:
>
>During the last game session, an argument arose about how the 2nd edition spell stoneskin works. As
>the DM I argued that even though the spell blocked the attack, the special ability of level drain
>that the undead had would still take effect. The players argued that it would not because the attack
>never landed. According to the spell description, magic missile, while it would be absorbed by the
>spell would still do damage. In addition to the stoneskin spell, Aid was cast as well. My arguement
>about this is that once these spells are cast, if what the players were saying were true, then the
>reciepent of the spell no long becomes a valid target for melee, making them immune to any attack
>because of the combination of the spells untill the stoneskin wore off. At that time the added 8
>points of damage would be subtracted form the total. It was my understanding that the protection
>given by stoneskinn lasted until x number of successful attacks occured. The character's AC made it
>damn near inpossible for the creatures to hit him except for the undead. Who is right?

You read the rules, right?

Stoneskin protects against melee attacks, not energy attacks.
And how does Aid protect one from undead?