Russian aggression problem

[aford10]

Russia has already invaded the Crimea peninsula, and has thousands of troops on the Ukraine border. They have been warned to back off, but don't. I don't think it's quite cold war status, but this seems like it could really develop into a problem. If the Russian troops don't back off, I think they're going to get knocked off.

 

[musical marv]

Russia has already invaded the Crimea peninsula, and has thousands of troops on the Ukraine border. They have been warned to back off, but don't. I don't think it's quite cold war status, but this seems like it could really develop into a problem. If the Russian troops don't back off, I think they're going to get knocked off.

 

[musical marv]

I hope they do. I never trusted Russia!

 

[aford10]

I hope they do. I never trusted Russia!

There doesn't seem to be much reason to. Putin seems to be thumbing his nose at everybody, every chance he gets.

 

[Reynod]

My Ukrainian work colleague (who has family from all over the Ukraine, and mostly engineers at that) here on my project team for a year tells me most of the people in the Eastern region around the Crimea consider themselves "Russian" apart from the ethnic Tarters.

Historically there are strong ties for this region and Russia ... but not so the Western part of the Ukraine ... who were gifted the Crimean area as a simple way of tidying up Soviet Russia back when it didn't really matter ... because the whole region was simply part of the USSR.

Add the Black sea fleet ports opening up Russian navy access.

Add Putin's first 5 speeches.

Add (from their perspective) an antagonistic anti-Russian agenda for the Kiev' protests and the loss of a Russian friendly president of the Ukraine.

Russia won't invade the Ukraine but the loss of the IP for their SS-18 missile guidance, Antanov plane factory and associated instrumentation expertise along with nucear enginineering expertise will hurt them if they cannot maintain / rebuild a positive relationship with the Ukraine.

The central and western parts of the Ukraine are certainly not just full of peasants and farmers.

The Ukraine contributed a ton of expertise in electronics, instrumentation and associated engineering to Soviet Russia's capability.

Russia fails to comprehend the sheer engineering brilliance of the poeple from that region.

I also wonder how the Ukrianian national debt works out when you tear that chunk out of it ... is Russia going to compensate?

 

[chunkymonster]

I can't help but view the Obama Administration's approach to Russia and Crimea as just another means to perpetuate a boogeyman to justify continued military spending and meddling in world affairs.

 

[aford10]

If the vote to secede was legit, then that would change my opinion. But it's hard not to be intimidated when your land has been overrun by Russian troops and propaganda.

Maybe I'm off base here, but there's a large population of Mexican residents that beg to be part of the US. There's also a massive drug cartel and corruption problem there, where the government has tried and failed to corral. Now it's basically open season on anyone who tries to stop the drugs. Without going too much further into that issue, what do you think would be the world wide reaction, if the US just invaded Mexico, and said 'This is ours now.'

 

[musical marv]

I hope they do. I never trusted Russia!

There doesn't seem to be much reason to. Putin seems to be thumbing his nose at everybody, every chance he gets.

Putin wants the Ukraine back in the worst way and he will do everything in his power to obtain it including going to war.

 

[aford10]

I have to say, I'm seeing too many videos of Russians attacking Ukranian police departments, and pro-russian factions attacking ukranian citizens. The fact that Russia has so much military force on the border, just screams that they are ready to invade and take over more area. Ukraine has the pipelines for their energy deportation, and it's a huge motivator to take over.