[SOLVED] RX 5700 vs GTX 1660Ti

[drandy2019]

Hey! I've been trying to figure out which of these two GPU should I buy. First of all, I really would prefer a card that isn't too noisy or gets too hot. The RX has both issues, so that's why I prefer the GTX in this case. However, the RX is just much better at every performance. I really want to hear it from you guys, which is actually better counting every possible cons and pros.

So, to give you an idea of what I do.
Photoshop
Premiere Pro
Cinema 4D
Gaming
After Effect
ZBrush

Based on these, which one do you think is better?

 

[Jason H.]

Hey! I've been trying to figure out which of these two GPU should I buy. First of all, I really would prefer a card that isn't too noisy or gets too hot. The RX has both issues, so that's why I prefer the GTX in this case. However, the RX is just much better at every performance. I really want to hear it from you guys, which is actually better counting every possible cons and pros.

So, to give you an idea of what I do.
Photoshop
Premiere Pro
Cinema 4D
Gaming
After Effect
ZBrush

Based on these, which one do you think is better?

The 5700 beats the 1660ti in every aspect, everytime, all the time.

However if you have the money to spend on a 5700 but would rather have a Nvidia card, I would go with either a 2060 or a 2060 super (would choose the 2060 super everytime over the normal 2060 though)

However the 5700 beats the 2060 super in MOST situations and has a lower price tag around the same price as the normal 2060.

The 5700 has a tdp of 225w whereas the 2060 has a tdp of 175w. So cooling is more efficient and quiter on the 2060 and 2060 super.

 

[drandy2019]

The 5700 beats the 1660ti in every aspect, everytime, all the time.

However if you have the money to spend on a 5700 but would rather have a Nvidia card, I would go with either a 2060 or a 2060 super (would choose the 2060 super everytime over the normal 2060 though)

However the 5700 beats the 2060 super in MOST situations and has a lower price tag around the same price as the normal 2060.

The 5700 has a tdp of 225w whereas the 2060 has a tdp of 175w. So cooling is more efficient and quiter on the 2060 and 2060 super.

That's why I would prefer the 5700.
Compared to the GTX 970 Gaming 4G, how is the 5700 fan noise and temp?
I guess this would be a better comparison since I have had that gpu for over 4 years.

 

[tennis2]

Do you NEED an RX5700 for your usage? What can't your GTX970 handle in these programs?

GPU fan noise an temp is as much/more reliant on the cooler that a manufacturer straps to a card than the GPU chip TDP underneath.

I haven't had any experience with undervolting Navi cards yet, but AMDs Polaris cards could be undervolted quite well without sacrificing frequency to nearly match the GTX1060 on power draw. AMD's WattMan utility is very nice.

 

[drandy2019]

Do you NEED an RX5700 for your usage? What can't your GTX970 handle in these programs?

GPU fan noise an temp is as much/more reliant on the cooler that a manufacturer straps to a card than the GPU chip TDP underneath.

I haven't had any experience with undervolting Navi cards yet, but AMDs Polaris cards could be undervolted quite well without sacrificing frequency to nearly match the GTX1060 on power draw. AMD's WattMan utility is very nice.

It's not only about the programs I used. There is gaming as well and for the 3D programs, I need a good GPU that is fast and can render without any problem. My current GPU takes a long time for that.
Which do you recommend me, the 5700 or 1660Ti?

 

[tennis2]

RX5700.

 

[drandy2019]

RX5700.

Okay, thanks. Just one last thing. Does it gets hotter than the GTX 1660TI and does it make more sound? I have a small room where I have the PC and it can get really hot if something is producing heat.

 

[tennis2]

Check out Gamers Nexus. They've reviewed/torn down pretty much every 5700(XT) in existence.

Again... When you say "does it get hotter than a 1660Ti" that's a relative question considering there are versions of the GTX1660Ti with a single fan ITX cooler:

all the way up to triple fan coolers of that GPU:

So again, asking if one GPU is hotter than the other isn't a comparison. Yes, the 5700 GPU draws more power than a 1660Ti, but the temperature and noise that is produced is a direct function of the cooler strapped to each.

 

[drandy2019]

Check out Gamers Nexus. They've reviewed/torn down pretty much every 5700(XT) in existence.

Again... When you say "does it get hotter than a 1660Ti" that's a relative question considering there are versions of the GTX1660Ti with a single fan ITX cooler:

all the way up to triple fan coolers of that GPU:

So again, asking if one GPU is hotter than the other isn't a comparison. Yes, the 5700 GPU draws more power than a 1660Ti, but the temperature and noise that is produced is a direct function of the cooler strapped to each.

If you would compared the RX 5700 vs RTX 2060 Super, would you still consider the Radeon card or not?

 

[tennis2]

The RTX2060 Super is about 6-10% faster than the RX5700 (non-XT) on average. It's more on par with the RX5700XT.

 

[drandy2019]

The RTX2060 Super is about 6-10% faster than the RX5700 (non-XT) on average. It's more on par with the RX5700XT.

If would want to buy the RTX 2060 Super, which one should I go for? I mean, the EVGA is $50 more and probably there isn't a of difference in performance.

Nvidia RTX 2060 Super:
https://www.bestbuy.com/site/evga-s...ard-black-transparent/6360817.p?skuId=6360817

EVGA RTX 2060 Super:
https://www.bestbuy.com/site/nvidia...ics-card-black-silver/6361329.p?skuId=6361329

 

[tennis2]

I'd probably just buy the EVGA RTX2060 Super SC Ultra for $390 after promo code and MIR. The RGB and additional "15MHz" (1% higher frequency.....which will be negated by Nvidia Boost 3.0 anyway) on the XC ultra isn't worth the extra $20.

 

[drandy2019]

I'd probably just buy the EVGA RTX2060 Super SC Ultra for $390 after promo code and MIR. The RGB and additional "15MHz" (which will be negated by Nvidia Boost 3.0 anyway) on the XC ultra isn't worth the extra $20.

Sorry to ask, but what is MIR?

 

[tennis2]

Mail in rebate. $20 for that listing. (red words are hyperlinks)

 

[drandy2019]

Mail in rebate. $20 for that listing.

Ah, gotcha!

 

[tennis2]

MSI 5700XT Mech = $370 after promo code and MIR.
RX5700XT draws about 20W more than the 2060 Super. Both perform the same. So is ray tracing and 20W power savings (stock/auto voltage) worth $20? Maybe, maybe not.

 

[King_V]

The 5700 has a tdp of 225w whereas the 2060 has a tdp of 175w. So cooling is more efficient and quiter on the 2060 and 2060 super.

Just a clarification: the 5700 has TDP of 185W. The 5700 XT is the one at 225W, but that's, of course, a more powerful card.

 

[drandy2019]

MSI 5700XT Mech = $370 after promo code and MIR.
RX5700XT draws about 20W more than the 2060 Super. Both perform the same. So is ray tracing and 20W power savings (stock/auto voltage) worth $20? Maybe, maybe not.

My issue with the RX 5700 is overheating. I been researching and reading a lot on the temp this gpu produces. It doesn't look nice. Temp going above 80C, that's crazy. My current temp reaches a max of 75C and that's only if I been playing for a while. It's also much more quiet and I understand the reason is the fan and not the actual GPU, but still I prefer it that way. That's why i really don't wan to risk it with the RX 5700.

 

[tennis2]

Again, the GPU/chip itself is not responsible for temps. That's how the cooler handles the power output.

I don't think you ever said what your monitor resolution or refresh rate is. The 2060 Super and 5700XT are solidly in the 1440p class of GPUs. So if you've got a 1080p (hopefully 144Hz) monitor, I'd go with the 2060 Super so you can at least use ray tracing to tank your FPS back down to the monitor's refresh rate for games that support it. And quite frankly, if you're at 1080p, you're better off spending $300 for a 5700 (non-XT) or 2060 (non-super)

 

[Jason H.]

Okay, thanks. Just one last thing. Does it gets hotter than the GTX 1660TI and does it make more sound? I have a small room where I have the PC and it can get really hot if something is producing heat.

I already gave you your best answer

 

[Jason H.]

Again, the GPU/chip itself is not responsible for temps. That's how the cooler handles the power output.

I don't think you ever said what your monitor resolution or refresh rate is. The 2060 Super and 5700XT are solidly in the 1440p class of GPUs. So if you've got a 1080p (hopefully 144Hz) monitor, I'd go with the 2060 Super so you can at least use ray tracing to tank your FPS back down to the monitor's refresh rate for games that support it. And quite frankly, if you're at 1080p, you're better off spending $300 for a 5700 (non-XT) or 2060 (non-super)

Considering hes fine with your normal, 60 fps, then sure the 2060 super could do 1440p, but if your looking to get 144hz for 1440p, or anything above 120fps on all high settings, then its not all that and a bag of chips. Most people building PCs want more than the basic 60fps and "room" to play with some settings. Even when they think they will be fine with 60fps, they will always wish they would have had just a little bit more.

And I highly disagree spending the cash on the 2060 non super, over the super or the 5700xt.. the 5700xt is 360-400$ already which is only 60$ more than the non super. The super, depending on model and cooler, is about 400-420$ +tax. I have the 2060s and it does amazing for games like Apex Legends, Modern Warfare, and many other games. However you cant max out all settings in these games and still have a competative FPS/FRAMETIME even with the super. So I would never recommend the non-super as it would never be a competative/high settings card. I would either get a 5700 xt or a 2060 super.

The 5700xt is louder and gets a bit warmer than the super, however it beats the performance of the super. Also the 5700xt is around the same price as the 2060s. So IMO it NEVER makes sense, at least as of now, to get a 2060 non super.

And this is all considering having a budget of 300-400$. Ofc I could recommend the 2060 non-s if the budget was lower.

 

[drandy2019]

Again, the GPU/chip itself is not responsible for temps. That's how the cooler handles the power output.

I don't think you ever said what your monitor resolution or refresh rate is. The 2060 Super and 5700XT are solidly in the 1440p class of GPUs. So if you've got a 1080p (hopefully 144Hz) monitor, I'd go with the 2060 Super so you can at least use ray tracing to tank your FPS back down to the monitor's refresh rate for games that support it. And quite frankly, if you're at 1080p, you're better off spending $300 for a 5700 (non-XT) or 2060 (non-super)

I got a 85Hz, 2560x1080 monitor and I'll probably get a 144hz monitor in the future. So, I guess I should still buy the 5700 XT or 2060 Super just in case.

 

[drandy2019]

Considering hes fine with your normal, 60 fps, then sure the 2060 super could do 1440p, but if your looking to get 144hz for 1440p, or anything above 120fps on all high settings, then its not all that and a bag of chips. Most people building PCs want more than the basic 60fps and "room" to play with some settings. Even when they think they will be fine with 60fps, they will always wish they would have had just a little bit more.

And I highly disagree spending the cash on the 2060 non super, over the super or the 5700xt.. the 5700xt is 360-400$ already which is only 60$ more than the non super. The super, depending on model and cooler, is about 400-420$ +tax. I have the 2060s and it does amazing for games like Apex Legends, Modern Warfare, and many other games. However you cant max out all settings in these games and still have a competative FPS/FRAMETIME even with the super. So I would never recommend the non-super as it would never be a competative/high settings card. I would either get a 5700 xt or a 2060 super.

The 5700xt is louder and gets a bit warmer than the super, however it beats the performance of the super. Also the 5700xt is around the same price as the 2060s. So IMO it NEVER makes sense, at least as of now, to get a 2060 non super.

And this is all considering having a budget of 300-400$. Ofc I could recommend the 2060 non-s if the budget was lower.

Thanks for the advice! I do know the 5700 xt is at match or better than the 2060 S. The only concern, which I described before is the temp. I have a small room where I have my PC. It gets really hot and having a GPU that goes over 80C in some cases is not good (in my opinion). I wouldn't care about the fan noise, but the temp is something else. Almost negative every review I see is based on the temp; where they had to return it because it got too hot. It might not be the case for many others, but I prefer not to take the risk if that's the case.

 

[Jason H.]

Thanks for the advice! I do know the 5700 xt is at match or better than the 2060 S. The only concern, which I described before is the temp. I have a small room where I have my PC. It gets really hot and having a GPU that goes over 80C in some cases is not good (in my opinion). I wouldn't care about the fan noise, but the temp is something else. Almost negative every review I see is based on the temp; where they had to return it because it got too hot. It might not be the case for many others, but I prefer not to take the risk if that's the case.

Most of the negative temp reviews are from early reviews before 3rd party manufacturers started making 2 fan cooling models of the 5700xt. Back when it only had a blower style 60 (or 80mm) fan.

The 2 fan/3 fan models are much better. You shouldnt see anything above 70c on the card under 100% load as long as your case has adequete cooling.

 

[Jason H.]

If would want to buy the RTX 2060 Super, which one should I go for? I mean, the EVGA is $50 more and probably there isn't a of difference in performance.

Nvidia RTX 2060 Super:
https://www.bestbuy.com/site/evga-s...ard-black-transparent/6360817.p?skuId=6360817

EVGA RTX 2060 Super:
https://www.bestbuy.com/site/nvidia...ics-card-black-silver/6361329.p?skuId=6361329

If your going to get a super I would suggest Gigabytes OC Gaming 3 fan or 2 fan model. It has the highest core clock (it is factory overclocked from 1650mhz to 1812 mhz) and is only between 400-420$. I got the 3 fan model (in white with only 1 8pin) and the temp never goes above 61. I get an AVG of 180fps (usually around 210 fps) in apex legends with all low settings with AA on max and texture streaming budget on max. I get 160fps avg in the new COD Modern Warfare on ALL MAX (100fps with RTX Enabled on all max).

I also threw on a +500mhz memory clock and a +100 core clock to give a decent little 8-10fps boost using Heaven Benchmark to test results.

However if you really know how to overclock and mess around, typically, Founders Edition Super Cards can be OC'd higher than the factory OC'd variants. Meaning you might be able to get a bit of a higher OC on a founders edition card if you know what your doing. This is because founders editions cards come from a better bin. You can get a FE card from Best Buys website for about 400$. However you only get 2 fans and theres no GUARENTEE on the overclock capability.