[SOLVED] RX 580 UPPGRADE?

[Jontte]

Hello,
Is it worth going from rx 580 8gb to rx 5600 xt 6gb?
Gaming on 1080p 144hz.
I know the card is faster but is it pointless when you get lower vram?
Would the rx 5700 or 5700xt be better?
Thanks!

 

[oldcracc]

VRAM isn't really an issue, most games only use up to like 5gigs maximum VRAM, maybe some more intensive games will use more, but I wouldn't worry. If you have the money, I'd recommend the 5700xt, but the 5600xt works perfectly good as well. Its up to you and your budget, but you would be good with either card.

 

[jay32267]

I'm seeing it's a great card for 1080p at 60 fps.....but as far as hitting 144 Hz.....I'm seeing.....

"In Assassin’s Creed: Odyssey, the Sapphire 5600 XT averages about 78 frames per second at 1080p on very high settings. In F1 2019, at 1080p on ultra-high, it was closer to 100 fps. "

 

[oldcracc]

I'm seeing it's a great card for 1080p at 60 fps.....but as far as hitting 144 Hz.....I'm seeing.....

"In Assassin’s Creed: Odyssey, the Sapphire 5600 XT averages about 78 frames per second at 1080p on very high settings. In F1 2019, at 1080p on ultra-high, it was closer to 100 fps. "

Well, thats also a AAA game, you won't hit full 144FPS in large intensive games like those. You would see 144fps in more eSports titles.

You can invest in the 5700xt if you want to achieve higher frame rates in AAA games.

 

[tennis2]

Ultra settings are wasteful and unrealistic. You're wasting your money if you pursue xxx FPS at ultra settings.

I see no reason to buy a RX5700/5700XT for 1080p gaming. Not to mention the fact that the 160W TDP vBIOS update combined with the fact that the 5600XT is the same underlying chip as the 5700/XT, you can probably OC it the last 10% up to a 5700.

The RX5600XT is very well suited for high framerates at 1080p. It's ~50-60% faster than an RX580, so simply multiply your current FPS by 1.55 to determine what you'll be getting out of the upgrade.

The biggest reservation I have about the 5600XT/5700/5700XT is lack of ray tracing. AMD has already confirmed that the new XBOX & PlayStation will have ray tracing, so this feature seems to be here to stay. Based on your brief ownership of an RX580, this may not be an issue for you since you seem to be the type that upgrades every couple years, but outside of that window, it may become a pain point.

 

[Jontte]

Thanks for the answers!
Do you think the rx 5600xt would be a good pair with r5 3600x, b450 tomahawk and 3000mhz cl15 ram?
Thats what i have right now and what i know from computers that should be a good pair, right?

 

[Zizo007]

No need for more than 5600XT for 1080p but the RX580 should be enough for 1080p.
Even if you get a 2080 Ti you won't get 144 fps at 1080p in non-fast paced games like AC Odyssey.
There is no point of having more than 60 fps in non-fast paced games. The RX580 already pulls 60+ fps in non-fast paced games like AC Odyssey.
The RX580 pulls 144+fps in fast paced games like CS GO so you will really see no significant difference by upgrading your GPU.

You can also OC the RX580 easily to increase perofrmance, I had an RX580 with 1080p that overclocked to 1515Mhz Core 2200Mhz RAM. The only reason I upgraded my RX580 to a 2080 Ti was for 4K60Hz Ultra graphics.

 

[tennis2]

^Zizo.
OP - Why are you feeling like your RX580 is insufficient? Perhaps wait one more generation? Sure, the 5600XT is 50-60% faster, but it's also the same % more expensive.

 

[Jontte]

Ultra settings are wasteful and unrealistic. You're wasting your money if you pursue xxx FPS at ultra settings.

I see no reason to buy a RX5700/5700XT for 1080p gaming. Not to mention the fact that the 160W TDP vBIOS update combined with the fact that the 5600XT is the same underlying chip as the 5700/XT, you can probably OC it the last 10% up to a 5700.

The RX5600XT is very well suited for high framerates at 1080p. It's ~50-60% faster than an RX580, so simply multiply your current FPS by 1.55 to determine what you'll be getting out of the upgrade.

The biggest reservation I have about the 5600XT/5700/5700XT is lack of ray tracing. AMD has already confirmed that the new XBOX & PlayStation will have ray tracing, so this feature seems to be here to stay. Based on your brief ownership of an RX580, this may not be an issue for you since you seem to be the type that upgrades every couple years, but outside of that window, it may become a pain point.

Thanks for the good reply!
At least now i dont see many games that support rtx so i think by the time they do i will uppgrade again, but you never know

 

[Jontte]

^Zizo.
OP - Why are you feeling like your RX580 is insufficient? Perhaps wait one more generation? Sure, the 5600XT is 50-60% faster, but it's also the same % more expensive.

The rx 580 is not bad at all but i am building a pc for my brother so he is going to buy it from me.
So i dont see a reason to buy a new rx 580 for myself

 

[ohio_buckeye]

Also, if you wanted a budget option, look at the gtx 1660 super. Should run about 230 dollars. But is only 3-5% slower than a 1660 ti. Overclocked, it should beat the ti and almost bump against the 2060. I have the 580 now, and am told the 1660 ti should be a big upgrade. But I didn't want to spend 280 on the ti or the 5600xt. Though of those 2, no doubt the 5600xt is the card you want.

But the 1660 super is 50 less. For me at 1080p, it should be quite a bit of an upgrade from my 580.

 

[Zizo007]

The rx 580 is not bad at all but i am building a pc for my brother so he is going to buy it from me.
So i dont see a reason to buy a new rx 580 for myself

Then get the 5600XT and update to the latest bios for free performance.

 

[ohio_buckeye]

If you do go 5600xt, I think they say this is the one you want.

https://www.newegg.com/sapphire-radeon-rx-5600-100419p6gl/p/N82E16814202364

Here is the card I ordered.

https://www.newegg.com/evga-geforce-gtx-1660-super-06g-p4-1068-kr/p/N82E16814487479

I got it for 230. You can find other of the 1660 super for as low as 230 and add a 10 dollar rebate if you wanted to save. But the 5600xt should be a great card. Like I said, personally I didn't want to drop 280. Otherwise the 5600xt might be on it's way to me.

 

[tennis2]

Ahhh, so the thread title is a bit misleading. This isn't really an "upgrade" in the most common interpretation.

Then yeah, by all means, the 5600XT looks to be a great card.
I'd be really interested in seeing someone OC this card without simply sliding Power Limit % up. Love to see the 5600XT hit 2000MHz like the 5700XT can. But you'd have to use manual voltage tuning to keep under the 160W TDP for sure.

 

[ohio_buckeye]

Depending on budget, it looks like the normal 5700 can be had for another 50. I guess there's a question of where to stop going up. But might be worth looking at the 5700 if you are almost at 300.