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RX 7700xt is embarrassing when it compares to RX 6800,
Single digit rasterization gain meanwhile bus and VRAM get nerfed
Also RX6800 is cheaper
 
Gauche Cockney said:
RX 7700xt is embarrassing when it compares to RX 6800,
Single digit rasterization gain meanwhile bus and VRAM get nerfed
Also RX6800 is cheaper
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This whole gen is embarrassing....

Also, there's something misleading about the article title since the RX6800 hits around 15000 points in TS and the RTX 4070 around 18000 (same as 6800XT). It would be beastly if AMD made a 4070 competitor at $400........ But that's probably gonna be the 7800XT at $500 and that's really meh when the 6950XT is $600 and the 7900XT around $700 allready. I don't know.. if I'm saving I would choose 6700XT for 1440/60, and if I'm spending I'd go 7900XT for 1440/HR and 4K. If I could.not.afford the 7900XY but wantes that extra juice beyond what the 6700XT offers then the RX6800 is certainly enough for 1440p gaming which is what I would pick anyday over the 4070 or 7800
 
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Gauche Cockney said:
RX 7700xt is embarrassing when it compares to RX 6800,
Single digit rasterization gain meanwhile bus and VRAM get nerfed
Also RX6800 is cheaper
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I just sold a RX 6800 red devil for 370 with free shipping. I guess the only thing it misses out on, versus the 7700xt, is anti lag + or hyper RX and av1 encode. Seen some sell on ebay for less than 340 with shipping. Obviously used products have risks but more vram and the same performance for significantly less.

7700xt will probably drop to 400 relatively fast. First impressions of FSR3 seem good so maybe they can convince people to buy 7700xt/7800xt when prices drop. Just feels silly of AMD to do these high launch prices the last few generations.
 
Gauche Cockney said:
RX 7700xt is embarrassing when it compares to RX 6800,
Single digit rasterization gain meanwhile bus and VRAM get nerfed
Also RX6800 is cheaper
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The 6800 is running out of stock as it will soon be not available so relying on old cards now is a moot point !!
( Yes they are still around but wont be for much longer )

despite the slides AMD showed how the 7800xt trades blows with the 4070ti this is just clever marketing the whole product stack has shifted due to the 4090 having no competitor and the 4070ti ( 4080 12gb being rejected as a 4080 )

So after the shuffle basically the 7900xtx is the new 6800xt because it trades blows with the 4080 which the 6800xt traded blows with the 3080 and the stack filters down from there 7900xt VS 4070ti and the 7800xt VS the 4060ti 16gb !!

The 7800xt is not made to compete with the 4070ti or 4070 at its price point its made to compete with the 4060ti 16gb which i think it will beat it by quite a bit the 7700xt exists purely to upsell to the 7800xt for the extra $50usd but made to compete with the 4060 8gb rubbish so i see a price drop incoming soon ..

People have forgotten the price point of everything this gen its all gone up but if you match price with price the 7800xt VS the 4060ti 16gb !!
 
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There isn't enough difference between the 4060 TI 8gb & 16gb for AMD to make two cards to compete against it

this video compares both versions, the extra vram is about the only difference in performance.
there are more differences between the AMD cards.
 
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I will reserve judgement till benchmarks and reviews are out, however, anyone who has an RX6800 or XT shouldn't be looking to upgrade anyway. A good GPU should last you a few generations, if you have to upgrade GPUs every generation then you are not buying the right product for you.
 
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Elusive Ruse said:
I will reserve judgement till benchmarks and reviews are out, however, anyone who has an RX6800 or XT shouldn't be looking to upgrade anyway. A good GPU should last you a few generations, if you have to upgrade GPUs every generation then you are not buying the right product for you.
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I agree but comparisons and common sense don't match up. People want to see if they are better but at same time, it is a waste of money buying a new card every generation... and yet... just watch people with 4090 buy a 5090 next time. Some people just need to have the best... even if "best" is a fleeting thing, and expensive to maintain. I generally try to aim a little lower than best as the value is normally better.
 
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I will reserve judgement till benchmarks and reviews are out, however, anyone who has an RX6800 or XT shouldn't be looking to upgrade anyway. A good GPU should last you a few generations, if you have to upgrade GPUs every generation then you are not buying the right product for you.
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I would only move from the 6800XT to a 7900XTX which is what I did and it's about a 50% improvement in performance.

And if one practices the art of the GPU flip you can do it every gen. I will ride this train sometimes and other times I will sit and hold.

I didn't wait for my 6800XT to drop in value and sold it at $600 CAD in April. So my cost to upgrade was only $600. However, you have to have the money upfront to buy the new GPU.
 
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As someone with a 1070ti I am pretty happy with the way the RX 7800 XT is shaping up price and performance wise. I agree there is little reason to jump from RDNA2 to RDNA3 but for those of us who have been waiting to upgrade, the price to performance looks much better. I'm glad I waited, although I likely would have been happy with RX 6800 XT.
 
Glad I bought an RX 6700 XT. Price for the 7700 XT is close to the 6800, and the next step down is the 7600, which is close to the 6650. There is a massive gap in AMD's portfolio between the 7600 and the 7700 XT, and the only good option (6700 XT) is stopping production. Customers in this price range will have to either accept 8GB of VRAM, pay more for the 7700 XT, or switch to Nvidia.
 
Compared to the 4070 the 7700XT is using 22.5% more energy to do slightly less work .... I knew the chiplet design would hurt performance a bit but it also seems to affect energy efficiency negatively too
 
Makaveli said:
"If AMD makes the Radeon RX 7700 XT a bit faster, the graphics card has the potential to catch up to the GeForce RTX 4070."

The AIB models should have this covered.
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The downside to that is it would make the 7700XT even more inefficient than it already is ..... It's already using 22.5% more energy than a 4070 and if you up the clocks and voltages say 10% your energy efficiency is going to increase another 20-30% because it's non-linear as anyone that overclocks already knows. By the time it hits 4070 levels of performance it could be drawing close to 300 watts
 
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The downside to that is it would make the 7700XT even more inefficient than it already is ..... It's already using 22.5% more energy than a 4070 and if you up the clocks and voltages say 10% your energy efficiency is going to increase another 20-30% because it's non-linear as anyone that overclocks already knows. By the time it hits 4070 levels of performance it could be drawing close to 300 watts
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Valid point but I also think this will matter more for users in the EU with high energy prices.

Most people in NA don't consider power few extra watts in power consumption a big deal on this side of the pond as our prices are far better. For most people, your microwave, oven, or AC will be using more power than your desktop computer.
 
The 16 gig version 4060ti fell $430 , How low can they go
PNY GeForce RTX™ 4060 Ti 16GB Verto Dual Fan Graphics Card DLSS 3 https://a.co/d/iN2j9G0

Haha remember the Fud last week about a shortage and prices will go up 🤣 you can't make this ish up!
 
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