News RX 9070 XT leaked specs point to 4,096 shaders and 16GB VRAM — 3.1 GHz boost clocks and PCIe 5.0 support

Likewise, the supposed RX 9070 XT hits 211.71 FPS in Monster Hunter Wilds at 1080p with frame generation at unspecified settings.
would of rather known non FG x_x

either way if they can put the price right they could steal the low/mid range market as 16GB should be as low vram as anyone buys in 2025 & only way you get that in team green is $750 4070 ti or higher.
 
would of rather known non FG x_x

either way if they can put the price right they could steal the low/mid range market as 16GB should be as low vram as anyone buys in 2025 & only way you get that in team green is $750 4070 ti or higher.
agreed. no one wants the Frame Gen numbers. frame gen looks like junk in most titles on all hardware.

if this card matches the 4080 super in raster that means its roughly equal to the 7900xtx? that seems... unlikely.
 
I currently have a 3070. Every card I've ever bought has been a "skip one gen, pay the same amount, get double the performance"

In 2025, that would be $500 4080 Super performance. Do that, and AMD gets my money.

If AMD just does "Nvidia minus $50" yet again, I wait to see what's on the table next gen.
 
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9070 XT rumours started with something between 7900gre and 7900xt, now we r having up to 7900xtx raster performance with even better ray tracing. AMD is committed to make this work this time pushing the limits of the hardware used. Now they just need to get the price right .. at $500 for the XT it would be an absolute winner and both versions would sell like hot cakes, I think though the recent rumours of it costing $600 are the way it's going to go, not bad either since the non XT version will still be priced $500 with 16GB and performing like a 4070 Ti
 
RTX 4070 Ti costs $750, so there's a decent chance AMD charges $700 for what they call a 9700XT, and $500 for what they call a 9700.
Nvidia fixes the perf/$ for and AMD always just follows whatever Nvidi says, usually with a minor discount to try and apologize for their massively reduced feature set (most of that difference is useless gimmicks, but still). Probably not nearly enough discount since AMD has been often selling for under MSRP, and Nvidia cards usually sell with offensively absurd hikes over their already-ridiculous MSRP.
Whatever happens, I doubt AMD will try to rock the boat. Their GPU team seems terrified of trying to gain market share, or to compete in general.
 
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Whatever happens, I doubt AMD will try to rock the boat. Their GPU team seems terrified of trying to gain market share, or to compete in general.
Then again, the market did change a bit. In the past, it was often a hardware catch-up to newer games having more LOD etc. - and when one went up a price tier of GPUs, more LOD etc. But now, at 1080p the new GPUs don't make as much a difference for causal gaming. Like, whether 100 FPS with prev-gen GPU, or 200 FPS with a new GPU, not that an overall impact.

Then there is also need for investment for each model series, to be developed and produced. And when there is perhaps less demand for top GPUs, due to not everyone caring about 4K performance, there may just be no money there in that segment, in particular when the top spenders all go with 5090/5080.

Anyhow, for me it looks so far like it might be AMD for GPU again. Gonna see how it compares to a 5070, but 5080 is for me out of the question, price-wise, even if that happens to now be the GPU to have at least, for 4K fast-paced gaming.
 
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I currently have a 3070. Every card I've ever bought has been a "skip one gen, pay the same amount, get double the performance"

In 2025, that would be $500 4080 Super performance. Do that, and AMD gets my money.

If AMD just does "Nvidia minus $50" yet again, I wait to see what's on the table next gen.
You're waiting for times that will never return. Just upgrade and don't worry about the money. 4070 TI/5070 would be a big leap from your 3070.
 
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The only way I would entertain the idea considering buying Radeon over Nvidia is if all the features are closely compared to each other and the Radeon GPU is at least $100 cheaper than the competition. I think that AMD has to go at least $200 cheaper.

If Nvidia is selling their GPU for $700 then Radeon has to be $500. That will guarantee them a big leap in market share.
 
So if these numbers are accurate that puts it at a little less than 7% more cores, 17% more boost clock and 2.5% more memory bandwidth than a 7800 XT. Unless AMD has done something rather impressive with core design that means performance in the realm of a 4070 Ti. If that's the case then it really can't be more than $500 (should probably be more like $450) if they're looking for market.

Personally speaking I'm waiting for double the performance at no more than what I spent. The performance has appeared, but the pricing is still far away. I'm still hoping that people just won't buy things that are poor value below the 5090. Perhaps stock sitting on shelves would shift pricing structures.
 
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So if these numbers are accurate that puts it at a little less than 7% more cores, 17% more boost clock and 2.5% more memory bandwidth than a 7800 XT. Unless AMD has done something rather impressive with core design that means performance in the realm of a 4070 Ti. If that's the case then it really can't be more than $500 (should probably be more like $450) if they're looking for market.

Personally speaking I'm waiting for double the performance at no more than what I spent. The performance has appeared, but the pricing is still far away. I'm still hoping that people just won't buy things that are poor value below the 5090. Perhaps stock sitting on shelves would shift pricing structures.
yep. this is what i was thinking. good post