rx series vs some of the r9 cards

[heavymetal2000]

The prices on rx 470s are finally coming down some and I'm considering getting one instead of a used gpu for my budget build still in the works.

I'm not looking for a 480 cause atm I can't find one that I can get to my door for less then 400$ Canadian.

I have tracked down an msi gaming twin frozr rx470 4gb 1240mhz gpu for 259$ and I'm interested.

I've looked around online and I'm pretty confident it'll be good for what I want to and it fits my color scheme perfectly.

Questions. Based on my only ever gaming in 1080p atm.

My current 7850 is a very good performer for an older card. What kind of performance increase should I see with this upgrade?

Are the 480s really worth the extra
120+ $? Performance per dollar wise?

What r9 series card does the 470 compare to most? 280x? 290?

 

[HDD-Mod]

The fact that the rx 480 costs 199 for the 4 gb model and 229 for the 8 gb model, you shouldn't be paying 260 dollars for a 470, even if it's custom card...

GTX 970 is the equivalent to the 970, roughly

 

[ryguybuddy]

http://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/AMD-HD-7850-vs-AMD-RX-470/2182vs3640

You will see around double the performance with a RX 470.

The R9 290X and 390 are close in performance to the RX 470.

I recommend the RX 470.

 

[geofelt]

What is your cpu and your psu?

Some games are cpu limited and some graphics limited.

One possibly big difference between RX and R9 cards is that the R9 cards get their speed from high overclocks and require more psu capability than equivalent performing RX cards.
You can use tom's graphics hierarchy table to compare the performance tiers . One tier difference is hardly noticeable.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gpu-hierarchy,4388.html

FWIW, buy the stronger card if your wallet can manage it.
I have never regretted overspending for something good.
I have often regretted settling for a cheaper and lesser product.

 

[heavymetal2000]

Atm the 290 390 and x models of both are 400$ cards or more also. And getting tougher to find new.
The power consumption doesn't bother me a whole lot but if saving money on a good performing gpu let's me save money on the psu too then it's a bonus.

Most reviews I've seen only put the 480 10-15% better then the 470 for 120$ or more. The non reference 480s are just silly price wise.

All I need to be happy is a card that don't break the bank and gives me 40-60fps or better on most games.
My 7850 does it already for a good chunk of my games so if the 470 is that much stronger I may go for it.

It would be paired with an fx 6300 sitting around 4ghz on a 970 gaming board in a high air flow case.

 

[geofelt]

FX cores are slow.
You may well be more cpu limited than you think.
If so, a big graphics boost may leave you disappointed.
Here is my stock approach to finding out more:

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To help clarify your CPU/GPU options, run these two tests:

a) Run YOUR games, but lower your resolution and eye candy.
If your FPS increases, it indicates that your cpu is strong enough to drive a better graphics configuration.
If your FPS stays the same, you are likely more cpu limited.

b) Limit your cpu, either by reducing the OC, or, in windows power management, limit the maximum cpu% to something like 70%.
Go to control panel/power options/change plan settings/change advanced power settings/processor power management/maximum processor state/
This will simulate what a lack of cpu power will do.
Conversely what a 30% improvement in core speed might do.

You should also experiment with removing one core. You can do this in the windows msconfig boot advanced options option.
You will need to reboot for the change to take effect. Set the number of processors to less than you have.
This will tell you how sensitive your games are to the benefits of many cores.

If your FPS drops significantly, it is an indicator that your cpu is the limiting factor, and a cpu upgrade is in order.

It is possible that both tests are positive, indicating that you have a well balanced system,
and both cpu and gpu need to be upgraded to get better gaming FPS.
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[heavymetal2000]

I'm aware that amd chips are not near Intel performance wise.

But as of right now the cpu rarely gets warm or runs high usage when I'm gaming.

Arma being the exception so far.

What does max out regularly is my gpu when I'm playing games with lots of eye candy.

If I play skyrim atm modded heavily, I'll get 40-60+ fps. And it's stable.

The minute I throw a shader at it, instantly lose 10-20fps my gpu usage slams into the ceiling, I get chop, and occasionally will get get a crash due to memory.

Leading to believe that it's my gpu more then anything.

I've checked out some fx 6300 builds on YouTube, other sites and when paired with a good gpu they've proven to pull the fps I need to be happy.

I won't be moving my fx chip out anytime soon with my budget, and I will be getting a zen chip eventually, but it'll be after they've been out and probably upgraded a couple times say 2 years down the road.

 

[gokitty199]

I'm aware that amd chips are not near Intel performance wise.

But as of right now the cpu rarely gets warm or runs high usage when I'm gaming.

Arma being the exception so far.

What does max out regularly is my gpu when I'm playing games with lots of eye candy.

If I play skyrim atm modded heavily, I'll get 40-60+ fps. And it's stable.

The minute I throw a shader at it, instantly lose 10-20fps my gpu usage slams into the ceiling, I get chop, and occasionally will get get a crash due to memory.

Leading to believe that it's my gpu more then anything.

I've checked out some fx 6300 builds on YouTube, other sites and when paired with a good gpu they've proven to pull the fps I need to be happy.

I won't be moving my fx chip out anytime soon with my budget, and I will be getting a zen chip eventually, but it'll be after they've been out and probably upgraded a couple times say 2 years down the road.

in arma a good i5 will make a massive difference over your 6300

 

[heavymetal2000]

I'm already aware that the i5 will be better. I'm not buying an Intel chip to replace my fx 6300.

I'm looking to get a gpu upgrade to get more frames overall.