Ryzen 1600 wont OC past Turbo Speed

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BaylissLad

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Hola, my Ryzen 1600 was fine going to 3.6GHz on 1.35 (didnt do a massive stress test) and then I tried going 3.7GHz at 1.375v.

Booted fine and Task Manager and the Cinema Benchmark (Mind had gone blank) said i was running 3.7GHz.

However CPU Z and Ryzen Master said I was at 1.5GHz. My Cinema Benchmark score was about 600 lower than when stock and 700, roughly, lower than when at 3.6

Temps were fine and I dont think lack of voltage was an issue. I have seen one thread where his ryzen 1700 could not go past turbo speed which seems to be the case here because 3.6GHz is what its turbo speed is advertised at.

Any ideas why?

MOBO: MSI B350M Gaming Pro
 
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LLC ( Load Line Calibration), up a couple notches? Mine is at level 1 or 2.
If you let it auto volt, it will probably got to 1.4 something.
See if you can maintain 3.9-4.0 like that.
Then back off the voltage manually to , say, 1.4, try again.
Little steps down from there, until it's happy.

I found I needed a couple levels of LLC to even out the spike load when Cinebench or other all core load wanted to spike usage to 100%. This let me drop voltage to more comfortable levels from the ( too high) auto volt.

If just checking with cinebench, even autovolt isn't going to melt anything, the benchmark just isn't that long.
So you can work backwards from there to 1.4 or less.
I bumped SOC voltage to 1.175 so as to maintain 3200 14 14 14 34 ram speed, with ram boot voltage at 1.4.
Don't know if your board has this much control or not.

The reason I mention it is because when doing my initial set up, I would get the cpu OC running fine at 4.0, but when running the ram up to where I wanted it, sometimes the cpu OC wasn't happy on boot.
 
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@finstar such as what?

@exroofer even when im just on the desktop CPU Z shows 1.5GHz so it isnt to do with voltage whilst under load. Also when I did my 3.6GHz at 1.3v after 3.7 wouldnt work i also did 2800MHz RAM at 1.35v and my PC died. It crashed and then would not display anything after booting. Switched Ram sticks around and booted to bios successfully to restore default values
 
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I had something called game boost on my b350 Tomahawk that set all the cores to 3.4GHz on my 1700.
AMD cool n quiet is something you should also disable when overclocking, i can't remember if there's anything else that affects it but the base rule is that you should control the clockspeed and voltage and not the mobo.
 
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Ya if you see 1.5 GHz on desktop on CPU-Z, that sounds like one of the mobo features that clocks it down under light load is still in effect.
I don't know how different the MSI bios is, so comparing my settings won't help.

Would there happen to any OC profiles in the bios by default?
When I first got mine, it had a 4 GHz profile, which I loaded.
It was stable enough, but ran more voltage etc than needed.
So I looked at what it had changed, and turned down as much as i could while maintaining 4.0

Not suggesting you use a high voltage default preset for any length of time, but rather load it up long enough to see what it is doing to hit a decent OC.
Take a few notes, and go from there.
Hopefully someone with that specific board can chime in with a screenshot and/or notes on what they use.
Could you check to see exactly which bios version you are using?
Checking Newgg reviews just now on that board, more than a few notes about a bios flashing fixing quirks people encountered.


 
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@finstar Game boost is disabled and Cool n quiet turns off when you change the CPU frequency

@exroofer A profile is a good idea. Ill have a look what Voltage it is using to reach whatever frequency is on the profile (If my mobo has profiles/presets but i havnt seen any in there before so i doubt it)

Im using the Bios version 7A39v29 OR 7A39v28. I did update the default to one of those which was the latest at the time, not sure which though. Ill look when im home. Itll tell me in the bios right?
 
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Neither of thos BIOS options apparently which is wrong. Apparently i have v27 but I know I have v28+ because one of the update notes has made an effect on my motherboard (CPU debug LED off) as it was there and no longer is.

Couple options I have in the OCing tab is Core performance control set to Auto, Downcore control set to auto. Im not sure what they do?
 
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Not sure on the MSI bios.
I have a ridiculously long list of things I can adjust on my Crosshair 6, some of which I'm afraid to touch lol.
One wonders if the two you mentioned are giving you the headaches though.
They sound like things that would auto adjust frequency.
Is there a "disabled" setting for those two?
 
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Downcore control means that you can use it to disable cores on your cpu.
Core performance control probably shouldn't be on auto though.
 
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Why should it not be on auto?

 
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Just unparked two cores. Do you think this may have been the reason?
Annoyed that they have been parked, after installing CPU and stuff I did it and had to reinstall windows because i had 3 cores 4 threads and forgot to do it afterwards again.

EDIT: After going into EZ Mode, I have found that I have Core Performance Boost enabled. After a quick bit of googling though this seems like it is good?

EDIT 2: Just realised I mentioned CPB before xD. Why should I not be on?
 
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