Ryzen 1700 VS i7 8700k.

[Dennis_4]

I will be gaming, obviously. But I also want to be streaming a little bit. Not hardcore tho. Just casual streaming.

I never went with AMD. I heard that ryzen isnt really a gaming cpu? and if you want to be 100% gaming, get 8700k or intel.

Please help me. the GPU is going to be a gtx 1080 ti 11gb.

 

[sizzling]

What resolution and Hz? The 8700k is the better CPU but if 4k 60Hz it really wont make any difference but if going 1080p/1440p with high Hz/fps then the 8700k can show its muscle.

 

[Dennis_4]

I got a 1920x1080 monitor and a 1440p monitor. I thought it was 144Hz.

 

[sizzling]

Definitely the 8700k in my opinion.

 

[Dennis_4]

Definitely the 8700k in my opinion.

Wont it bottleneck too hard for streaming?

 

[qasim1991]

8700k

 

[sizzling]

Definitely the 8700k in my opinion.

Wont it bottleneck too hard for streaming?

No, its a 12 thread CPU with much stronger cores. Very few games can actually use 8 threads.

 

[mdd1963]

It is outperforming the 1800x even in multicore stuff, so, I'm sure it will be fine streaming too

 

[mdd1963]

If planning 4k, either CPU will do fine. Otherwise.... 8600k or 8700k, if you can find either...

 

[Dennis_4]

Thanks. Its a hard choise tho. Hopefully the 8700k wont screw me over with streaming will be mad AF. Rig is gonna cost me around 2500,-.

 

[1LiquidPC]

Gamernexus had a streaming/gaming review on the 8700k. It's informative from when I watched. That said, I have the Ryzen 1700 and tested on my open bench, but decided to change plans and switch it to upgrade a secondary rig. Got mine to 3.85Ghz with reasonable voltage at 3200 DDR4. There are some bugs still needing workout out and single core deficit in same benchmark vs. my X99 setup which helped my decision to go with Coffee Lake. The 8700k seems like a better fit for my main system upgrade.

 

[Dennis_4]

How is your ryzen with streaming? You like it?

 

[1LiquidPC]

Never got around to streaming during testing. Just benchmarks, stresstests, general use, and some blender renders to get a "feel" of performance while dialing in OC. Right now, its boxed up for install at a later time for secondary rig. One project at a time, lol. General performance is good, but to me feels a bit sluggish to what I thought it would be. Had an odd slowdown that corrected with a reboot but only happened once. Could be me though or early UEFI still. Cold boot(going by startup time listing in Win 10) varies from 20 to 24 seconds. There are also Cold Boot memory training issues, similar to X99. This means your system won't POST when trying to boot on occasion. This is with a Crosshair VI Hero and latest UEFI and AGESA versions. This doesn't affect everybody though, and some fix the issue with tweaks in UEFI. My X99 boot is about 17 seconds. Comparing CPU-Z 1.80 benchmark, scores are as follows, from memory anyway. My X99 in signature gets about 465 single core and 3600 is multicore. My 1700 OC'd gets 435 single core and 4700 multicore.

 

[srhnd]

Never got around to streaming during testing. Just benchmarks, stresstests, general use, and some blender renders to get a "feel" of performance while dialing in OC. Right now, its boxed up for install at a later time for secondary rig. One project at a time, lol. General performance is good, but to me feels a bit sluggish to what I thought it would be. Had an odd slowdown that corrected with a reboot but only happened once. Could be me though or early UEFI still. Cold boot(going by startup time listing in Win 10) varies from 20 to 24 seconds. There are also Cold Boot memory training issues, similar to X99. This means your system won't POST when trying to boot on occasion. This is with a Crosshair VI Hero and latest UEFI and AGESA versions. This doesn't affect everybody though, and some fix the issue with tweaks in UEFI. My X99 boot is about 17 seconds. Comparing CPU-Z 1.80 benchmark, scores are as follows, from memory anyway. My X99 in signature gets about 465 single core and 3600 is multicore. My 1700 OC'd gets 435 single core and 4700 multicore.

hey mate. I am thinking of either getting a full 1700 / 1700x X370 setup OR a x99 Taichi + 6850k setup. Alternatively z370 + 8700 but pcie lanes and overall board is subpar to x99 I think. Even x299 seems inferior with less compatible cpus and pcie lanes. What would you suggest between X370 and X99?

 

[mdd1963]

the 8700K can offer the sorts of minimums for 144 Hz monitors that R7 can only dream of....

 

[1LiquidPC]

I would no longer suggest X99 at this point, unless you get a very good price. If you're only using 1 GPU, and perhaps a soundcard, single NVMe SSD, then you don't need the extra PCI-E that X99 and X299 have. X299 has more lanes than X99 due to chipset, but unless you need them, it's not worth it with Z370 release. If you plan to game(high refresh monitor now or in the future) and casual stream, the 8700 or 8700k would be my choice. Also, the 8700 series of Coffee Lake are surely faster than 6850k, due to higher IPC and clockspeed. You lose quad-channel memory, but unless you absolutely need it for a specific reason, you'd never notice.

 

[rdgoodri]

Same question here, seems you guys are saying go with 8700k right? Even though ryzen has more cores.

 

[mdd1963]

Answer unchanged, 8700K is better (higher framerate minimums if 144 Hz refresh monitors are desired) , but, if you can find an 1800X on super-sale bundle with a B350, you might save $150 ($200 if you go for 1700 instead), and it would also be quite competent at everything... just not as fast in some games.(assuming a good/great GPU)

 

[rdgoodri]

Now, i know off topic, i think I need to wait for the 9700k, which i believe is coming out soon, correct?

 

[Supernova1138]

Now, i know off topic, i think I need to wait for the 9700k, which i believe is coming out soon, correct?

I don't think we'll see a 9700k until fairly late this year at the earliest eg. October or later. The 8th gen CPUs were rushed out for last October, and there still isn't a complete set of motherboards out for them. Maybe Intel will rush out an 8 core chip for their mainstream platform if AMD's Ryzen refresh makes some very impressive performance gains over the current lineup, but we probably aren't going to see a whole new generation for a while yet.

 

[agenthunk]

I want to say I have my first ROG Strix GL702ZC and it blows everything away.