[SOLVED] Ryzen 2700 vs 1700x

[ioannis2015v]

Hello, I would like to ask which cpu should I get. Since ryzen 2700x costs about 300€ in my country I can't buy it, but I found 2700 about 220€ really similar price with 1700 (180-200€). So, which one is better? 2700 is newer and I trust it more, but if I don't overclock it( I don't know how, so if I have to, I will have to call a specialist) is it better than 1700x which has higher frequency by stock? I guess that if 2700 is overclocked it's better than 1700x but when not which is better? Any advice??? Thank you!

 

[Beowolfbreko]

Wait for rayzen 3gen it will be better.Soo my advice wait 3 or 4 mounts for 3 gen ryzen

 

[maziech]

If You want just to upgrade CPU, wait for Zen2 architecture (3rd generation of ryzens).

If You want to buy new unit now, get 2700. 2700 overclocked will get close to 2700x for 66% of the price. You can also wait a few months for Zen2 to come out.

 

[ioannis2015v]

Ok, thank you. I will probably buy 2700. 3rd gen will be more expensive, but I may profit of lower prices on 2nd gen.

 

[drea.drechsler]

Hello, I would like to ask which cpu should I get. Since ryzen 2700x costs about 300€ in my country I can't buy it, but I found 2700 about 220€ really similar price with 1700 (180-200€). So, which one is better? 2700 is newer and I trust it more, but if I don't overclock it( I don't know how, so if I have to, I will have to call a specialist) is it better than 1700x which has higher frequency by stock? I guess that if 2700 is overclocked it's better than 1700x but when not which is better? Any advice??? Thank you!

The first question to settle is why you are choosing between 8 core CPU's? 8 cores are really only needed when heavy multi-tasking is required (like video streaming while gaming) or in certain types of productivity apps, like rendering, video editing and/or encoding.

If all you do is straight-up gaming you could probably do just as well with a 6 core 2600X and save some money to put towards a better motherboard or GPU, assuming you need one of those too.

It's really too soon to tell what Ryzen 3000 is going to be like...both in straight up performance and in price. Nobody really knows, it's all guesses and rumors right now. Also not sure exactly when it will be available, it could be a while after the announcement.

And just so you know, overclocking on Ryzen is extremely easy and very safe. It can get difficult if you push for extremes but that doesn't get you enough extra performance to be worth the effort and expense.

 

[InvalidError]

if I don't overclock it( I don't know how

AMD's first and second generation Ryzen don't overclock much beyond their stock boost frequencies, so overclocking them is mostly not worth the trouble. You end up using 20-50% more power for 3-10% more performance.

One thing to keep in mind if your budget is tight is that older-gen Ryzen will likely have even more massive discounts than it already had after 3rd-gen launches, just look at how the first-gen 1700 can be had for $160-180 in the USA, the 2700 will likely land in the same ballpark a few months from now, especially if the 8C16T 3600 gets introduced at ~$200 as rumors have said.

 

[drea.drechsler]

AMD's first and second generation Ryzen don't overclock much beyond their stock boost frequencies, so overclocking them is mostly not worth the trouble. You end up using 20-50% more power for 3-10% more performance.
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I have to disagree...at least on the non-X CPU's. My 1700 base speed is 3.0Ghz (all 8 cores/16 threads continuous heavy encoding load) and boosts one core to 3.7 for at best a few seconds at a time, even under a 240mm liquid cooler with core temps running around 30-35C. That's pretty paltry boosting...essentially, it's a 3.0Ghz processor. Yet, this system safely holds a sustained overclock, all cores, to 3.95Ghz, at heavy load.

That's a 31% overclock, pretty good by any standard, against the base clock. And 7% overclock against the one core/two threads only boost. Still not shabby and a substantial time saver for handbrake encoding tasks. Which are of course all-core, heavy loads where boosting performance is essentially meaningless since...it never boosts!

Any 1700 should be able to see a 3.9G overclock with safe voltages on a decent motherboard. But even a very mild 3.8G, still a 27% overclock, is well worth it and incredibly easy to get. Just increase VCore to 1.375, and multiplier to 38.0. It's done...probably more voltage than needed but still very safe for Ryzen.