Ryzen 3 2200G

[chaichonghern]

Need help to find a stable overclocking profile!! I'm new to overclocking!!

Build :
CPU : Ryzen 3 2200G with Wraith Stealth Cooler

RAM : 1x 8GB DDR4 2400MHZ

GPU : Using intergrated graphics ( 2GB)

HDD : 1TB SEAGATE 7200RPM

POWER SUPPLY : 500W

MotherBoard : MSI B350M PRO VDH

OS : Windows 10 Pro 64 - bit

Case : AVF ACSD573 USB 2.0 x2 + HD Audio / ATX / Fans x3 / 500W PSU / Black

 

[drea.drechsler]

First things first is consider obtaining a good aftermarket CPU cooler. Keeping the CPU cool is extra important with an APU.

Since you do have a Ryzen APU you need to make up your mind which is the more important performance improvement you're looking for: GPU performance or CPU. Memory speed is also important, especially for GPU performance. But the one thing you shouldn't do is attempt to dial in an overclock on all three areas at the same time.

If gaming graphics is most important work on overclocking GPU, then memory. Memory speed is very important for optimum graphics performance. Once you've got a stable memory overclock THEN work on CPU.

But if CPU performance is more critical (for productivity apps) then work on CPU first, then memory and then GPU.

Ultimately it may not make a huge difference in final overclocking results which area you work first. It's just more important to follow a process so you're not trying to work all three areas at once which is the best way to end up in frustration.

I'd also suggest you get AMD's overclocking utility, RyzenMaster. It has a nice guide to help with good advice on overclocking the Ryzen processors.

 

[chaichonghern]

First things first is consider obtaining a good aftermarket CPU cooler. Keeping the CPU cool is extra important with an APU.

Since you do have a Ryzen APU you need to make up your mind which is the more important performance improvement you're looking for: GPU performance or CPU. Memory speed is also important, especially for GPU performance. But the one thing you shouldn't do is attempt to dial in an overclock on all three areas at the same time.

If gaming graphics is most important work on overclocking GPU, then memory. Memory speed is very important for optimum graphics performance. Once you've got a stable memory overclock THEN work on CPU.

But if CPU performance is more critical (for productivity apps) then work on CPU first, then memory and then GPU.

Ultimately it may not make a huge difference in final overclocking results which area you work first. It's just more important to follow a process so you're not trying to work all three areas at once which is the best way to end up in frustration.

I'd also suggest you get AMD's overclocking utility, RyzenMaster. It has a nice guide to help with good advice on overclocking the Ryzen processors.

Hey Thanks for your reply!! First thing I overclocked my ram from 2400mhz to 2667mhz , when boot into windows, used about 15 - 25 mins it came out blue screen, so i changed back to the normal settings which is 2400mhz , next i tried to overclock my cpu to 3.7 with 1.4V after applying changes at ryzen master software , windows won't boot and there's no display at all , not even the motherboard loading screen!!

 

[dje_music]

Does your memory stick show up on the mobo's QVL? I would not try to overclock the memory past the rated timing unless you get the other two (CPU and GPU) stable first. Each processor will clock differently - my 2200G is stable at 3800 mHz on CPU side and 1100 mHz on GPU side. My GPU performance is lower than most, and am working on it with the mobo mfr (Asus). However, this is also with 2x8 (16Gb) of 3200Mhz RAM - the Ryzens, especially the 2200G, likes higher timing RAM, and preferably a 2-stick set - but are finnicky on WHICH RAM - which is why it is important to make sure the RAM is supported my the mfr. I know this first hand since I just completed my first build in 15 years and found out the hard way that things are not as straightforward as they used to be Good luck, and use the MSI tech support if you can.

mobo support page:
https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/support/B350M-Pro-VDH

mobo vendor list for RAM using 2200G:
https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/support/B350M-Pro-VDH#support-mem-13

 

[drea.drechsler]

Hey Thanks for your reply!! First thing I overclocked my ram from 2400mhz to 2667mhz , when boot into windows, used about 15 - 25 mins it came out blue screen, so i changed back to the normal settings which is 2400mhz , next i tried to overclock my cpu to 3.7 with 1.4V after applying changes at ryzen master software , windows won't boot and there's no display at all , not even the motherboard loading screen!!

I suggest not trying to overclock CPU yet as optimizing memory for highest speed seems to be the way to get the most from Ryzen APU's. But unfortunately, it's well known that with very few exceptions DDR4 memory is still being sold set-up for Intel processors. Later BIOS releases have improved things but generally by lowering performance timings even for memory that IS set up and optimized for Ryzen.

Luckily, there is a tool that can help find the best timings customized to your memory so that you can load them in the advanced memory setup screens in your BIOS. Called the DRAM calculator, you can read about it here:

https://forums.guru3d.com/threads/ryzen-dram-calculator-1-3-1-release-overclocking-dram-on-am4.422224/

There's a youtube video of a guy using the tool with a tutorial here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9bekQTRnzY

He also shows you how to also use a tool called Taiphoon to determine exactly what DRAM chips are on your memory modules.

You can download Dram Calculator from here:

https://www.guru3d.com/files-details/download-ryzen-dram-calculator.html

I suggest just using your memory's rated clock speed and set up for 'safe' settings at first. You can try overclocking later but always start by using safe settings at the desired clock speed you're testing.