[SOLVED] Ryzen 3700x Overclock necesasry or just DOCP in my case?

[SkyRock1986]

Okay my signature is up to date on my current specs. I do not use my PC as workstation. I want my CPU to boost only when it needs to, not be stressing all the time.

I have enabled DOCP, and set 3000mhz for my RAM in bios. I get nice automatic boost on my CPU in games to like 4.325Ghz. -- After Burner/Riva results

Is this a proper way for me to OC based off what I am trying to achieve or should I be overclocking the actual CPU too?


I have done nothing else in Bios.

Ryzen 7 3700x\Wraith Prism Cooler
Asus Prime x470-Pro\V.5406 Bios
XPG Spectrix DDR4 3000MHz 2x 8GB
Aorus Extreme RTX 2070
Western Digital Sata SSD M.2 250GB\Western Digital HDD 1TB
EVGA 850W PSU\Windows 10 64 bit

 

[Nemesia]

Your title suggest that you Overclocked your CPU but the DOCP overclock your RAM.

Overclocking your 3700x is another story.

 

[sizzling]

Please list full pc spec in the post. A lot of mobile devices don’t display signatures and a lot of people access this site on mobile devices.

 

[SkyRock1986]

Your title suggest that you Overclocked your CPU but the DOCP overclock your RAM.

Overclocking your 3700x is another story.

You right, sorry I tried to change subject to fix what I am trying to ask.

 

[CountMike]

You right, sorry I tried to change subject to fix what I am trying to ask.

Setting DOCP/XMP only brings RAM to specified values. no change in CPU boost or frequency.
For CPU performance enable and set PBO to highest values.

 

[SkyRock1986]

RAM frequency determines the speed of the Infinity Fabric link between CCXes, so there is actually a reason for Ryzen chips to benefit more from higher-clocked RAM

 

[CountMike]

RAM frequency determines the speed of the Infinity Fabric link between CCXes, so there is actually a reason for Ryzen chips to benefit more from higher-clocked RAM

It surely does. All Ryzen thrive with fast RAM.

 

[EndEffeKt_24]

Docp is a pretty save bet. You can always fall back on that. To get further performance increases I would try to overclock the ram to 3400 or 3600.
You can use Typhoon Burner and Dram calculator for that. There are serveral tutorials out there to help you.

 

[GarrettL]

Enable PBO and DOCP.

Overclocking the can lead to cpu degradation due to the higher voltages required for stability.

 

[drea.drechsler]

Enable PBO and DOCP.

Overclocking the can lead to cpu degradation due to the higher voltages required for stability.

Did you mean to say...."Overclocking the cpu can lead to cpu degradation...."?

 

[Phaaze88]

Very informative - an hour long - video regarding Ryzen 3000 overclocking.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jmPVr8M-9yI&list=PLCuLF2E-vSRMv3Q47heKkPxCiLCSAy83s&index=2&t=0s

 

[drea.drechsler]

Very informative - an hour long - video regarding Ryzen 3000 overclocking.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jmPVr8M-9yI&list=PLCuLF2E-vSRMv3Q47heKkPxCiLCSAy83s&index=2&t=0s

More precisely PBO overclocking alongside stock showing how voltage behaves when the processor's boosting algorithm is in control as compared to a fixed overclock.

 

[Phaaze88]

More precisely PBO overclocking alongside stock showing how voltage behaves when the processor's boosting algorithm is in control as compared to a fixed overclock.

Aye. I'm having to rewatch the vid so it all sinks in - that I don't have a Ryzen 3000 myself doesn't help, LOL.

Fixed overclocking is more tedious than on an Intel cpu, and just not worth it.

 

[drea.drechsler]

Aye. I'm having to rewatch the vid so it all sinks in - that I don't have a Ryzen 3000 myself doesn't help, LOL.

Fixed overclocking is more tedious than on an Intel cpu, and just not worth it.

He's so unfocused, he's hard to watch. But skip too much and you're likely to miss out on a bit of info that's really informative.

So we're finding out now what more and more of the 'experienced' overclockers are finding... that even low fixed voltages are risky since the processor can not ever reduce it to lower current through the cores. The nature of the very small geometry seems to have made it more susceptible to degradation if you push current, and especially temperature, too high with voltage.

But the funny thing is he seems to have just discovered in that video that since frequency also drives current and temperature it will therefore have an effect on how the algorithm works. At least that's what it seemed to me.

But I do always keep in mind, when watching him, what his ultimate goal is. And that is EXTREME overclocking, on LN2. So I have to imagine he wants to know how far he can safely test them without degrading and rendering useless the CPU he'd wanting to put in competition. And especially since, like the rest of us, he can't be going through $500 processors on a regular basis.