Ryzen 5 1600 or i3 8100 Coffee Lake?

[kluader]

Ryzen 5 1600 or i3 8100 Coffee Lake?

Who knows?

 

[theonerm2]

Ryzen 5 1600

I picked it because it has 2 more cores and 12 more threads. . It's a beast in comparison. Great value.

 

[das_stig]

Oh hell yes RZ5 any day !

 

[kluader]

thx gus. What memories should i use for this cpu?

 

[das_stig]

Single side DDR4-3200Mhz using Samsung chips.

I cheat and use uk.pcpartspicker.com and see what other people have used on similar motherboards.

 

[mandeepsandhu]

Here are gaming benchmarks between i3 8100 and ryzen 1600
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZhN4KTHBMMk

 

[gussrtk]

there are other choices aside from 8100 and r1600.

but the breakdown of these two initial choices is that the i3, as always an increadible single core speeds. This will always give you a leadway on <4 core tasks over other slower higher core count units. On the other hand, the r-1600 is a great LONG TERM chip, no It does not offer best single core speed, but as you get into CPU heavy/multicore tasks, it'll shine. Although, at the end of the day... when are you gonna use 12 threads?

as far as Ram for the Ryzen, 3000mhz is a good choice. it meets the minimum requirements to run that system in stable conditions. Make sure your motherboard choice supports 2933/3000/ or 3200 if you choose to spend some extra money on the 3200mhz ram

if you're able to afford a 1600, then why are you not considering? >>>>


PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i5-8400 2.8GHz 6-Core Processor ($199.89 @ B&H) [Turbo Frequency at 4.0Ghz, and as we know, intel makes stronger speed cores which are clocked same as AMD counterparts, mainly because of microprocesses]
Motherboard: MSI - Z370 GAMING PLUS ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($121.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($184.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $506.86
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-12-17 13:29 EST-0500

 

[vMax]

Have to agree with gussrtk..the 8400 is a fantastic gaming CPU..If you are doing more than gaming like editing, production etc..lots of workloads requiring heavy multithreading then the Ryzen..

 

[Obakasama]

Where can 12 threads be used? In my case, Blender. Rendering on my Ryzen 5 1600 is faster than my GTX 750 ti at this point.

For those who only intend to game on PC, I would still recommend Intel over AMD.

 

[gussrtk]

 

[Obakasama]

I don't believe that contradicts anything I wrote. I stated clearly that if only gaming I would still recommend Intel over AMD. You even quoted it.

And yes, Blender will use all threads. For rendering it cuts down my render times by a third compared to my GTX 750 ti. But that's a specific use case.

 

[gussrtk]

I don't believe that contradicts anything I wrote. I stated clearly that if only gaming I would still recommend Intel over AMD. You even quoted it.

And yes, Blender will use all threads. For rendering it cuts down my render times by a third compared to my GTX 750 ti. But that's a specific use case.

oh, sorry i misread. possible alcohol had something to do with it lol.

 

[Obakasama]

No harm, just clarification.

 

[rgd1101]

MERGED QUESTION
Question from kluader : "Question about processors and motherboards."

Hello: Im thinking of building a new pc and I dont know what to choose:

--The first option is intel i3 8100 Coffee Lake and Gigabyte Z370 HD3


--The second option is AMD Ryzen 5 1600 and Asrock AB350 Pro4

What is your opinion?

Im very much concerned about the power consumption.

Tough call. I think I'd opt for the Intel build by a small margin. The 8th gen i3s are new i5s now. But the 1600 has 12 threads that make a huge difference in apps other than gaming. Depends on your usage, I guess.

Hello my friend, thanks for the answer.

Mostly browsing the internet and watching movies.

Anyway, I will choose the processor that has lower power draw.

I would wait for new AMD, Ryzen based APUs to appear, although with good GPU performance, they promise also very light power usage. First A12 9xxx processors for laptops use about 15 - 17w.

New AMD? When?

Anyway, what would you suggest for power draw? AMD or intel?

New AMD APUs are slated for early next year. As for AMD vs. Intel for power draw, it's a toss-up because it varies from model to model. Ryzen are pretty stingy comparing to earlier models.

Thanks mate very much.

 

[zbrownjohn]

Technically, the Ryzen 5 1600 is better, or should be better, but according to many calculations, the Ryzen 5 1600 can be 5% better, to 10% worse. The i3-8100 is stronger for gaming but the Ryzen 5 1600 is a more powerful everyday, workstation cpu.

This isn't the only thing to consider though, as the Ryzen 5 1600 also comes with a much stronger cpu cooling fan than Intel's stock cooler, but it's around $100 AUD more ($70 USD or something).

Overall, I would choose the i3-8100 but if I had a budget a bit over $1200 AUD ($850 USD or something) I'd prefer the i3-8350K for much stronger performance in every category against both the i3-8100 and the Ryzen 5 1600 by around 15% - 30%.