[SOLVED] Ryzen 5 1600 vs i7 4790k

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Hi everyone

I am in dilemma for which cpu is for me let you take you towards the situation I am getting both the respective combos for same price and I am a bit confused which one will be the good for me I want to play AAA titles and a bit stream.

ryzen 5 1600 and gigabyte s2h motherboard and Corsair 8 gigs 2400 MHz ram
Intel i7 4790k and ASUs maximus 4th generation and 8x2 1600 MHz ram


I am getting on same price and I am tight on budget and I am thinking to pair it With 1060 6gb

is 550w psu is enough for running these cpu?

please help me out from these dilemma

Thank You
 
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The 4790K is a 'dead end' on the platform.
Provided the S2H isn't an A320 motherboard (B350, B450), then you at least have an upgrade path through even 3000 series Ryzen 7's. I'd probably stay away from Ryzen 9's on that board.

Performance-wise, the 2400MHz won't be helping the 1600, and in a lot of games, the 4790K (especially) overclocked would likely have a slight edge -- in streaming, and for future use though, the 1600 seems like a better purchase.

A good quality 550w PSU would be more than sufficient, yes. A quality 450W unit would be fine too.

That being said, what kind of prices are you comparing them at?
The 4790K is a 'dead end' on the platform.
Provided the S2H isn't an A320 motherboard (B350, B450), then you at least have an upgrade path through even 3000 series Ryzen 7's. I'd probably stay away from Ryzen 9's on that board.

Performance-wise, the 2400MHz won't be helping the 1600, and in a lot of games, the 4790K (especially) overclocked would likely have a slight edge -- in streaming, and for future use though, the 1600 seems like a better purchase.

A good quality 550w PSU would be more than sufficient, yes. A quality 450W unit would be fine too.

That being said, what kind of prices are you comparing them at?
 
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The 4790K is a 'dead end' on the platform.
Provided the S2H isn't an A320 motherboard (B350, B450), then you at least have an upgrade path through even 3000 series Ryzen 7's. I'd probably stay away from Ryzen 9's on that board.

Performance-wise, the 2400MHz won't be helping the 1600, and in a lot of games, the 4790K (especially) overclocked would likely have a slight edge -- in streaming, and for future use though, the 1600 seems like a better purchase.

A good quality 550w PSU would be more than sufficient, yes. A quality 450W unit would be fine too.

That being said, what kind of prices are you comparing them at?
Thanks for your opinion man, Bro I am very tight on budget so I can’t change the configurations so I am getting combos for 150$ in India please suggest me good one and I want future proof for 1080p gaming in nearby 2 years
 
"Future Proof" is a myth.
I'd expect the 1600 to hold up better over the years, but for the next 2, the 4790K should still perform admirably.

Do you know which chipset the S2H board is?
I'd suggest attempting to overclock the 2400MHz RAM to 2666-2800MHz if possible, and I'd still lean towards the more modern platform in the 1600.
 
"Future Proof" is a myth.
I'd expect the 1600 to hold up better over the years, but for the next 2, the 4790K should still perform admirably.

Do you know which chipset the S2H board is?
I'd suggest attempting to overclock the 2400MHz RAM to 2666-2800MHz if possible, and I'd still lean towards the more modern platform in the 1600.
Sorry I forgot to mentioned that the mobo is gigabyte a320 s2h
 
Hi everyone

I am in dilemma for which cpu is for me let you take you towards the situation I am getting both the respective combos for same price and I am a bit confused which one will be the good for me I want to play AAA titles and a bit stream.

ryzen 5 1600 and gigabyte s2h motherboard and Corsair 8 gigs 2400 MHz ram
Intel i7 4790k and ASUs maximus 4th generation and 8x2 1600 MHz ram


I am getting on same price and I am tight on budget and I am thinking to pair it With 1060 6gb

is 550w psu is enough for running these cpu?

please help me out from these dilemma

Thank You
Of couse the Ryzen 1600. 6 cores 12 threads. The 4790K is not playable with heavy online games like BFV 64 player, you need 6 cores minimum.
 
Only my opinion,

In the long run the Ryzen 5 1600 combo would be a better option as you shouldn't just look at the performance figures alone. Wanting to stream I would definitely suggest a AMD on the higher core count.


My question,
How long do you plan on using sed specs?



The AMD option definitely has advantages, namely upgrading to a far better cpu if need be later on.
a 550w psu should be enough for the AMD combo with a 1060 6Gb.
 
Only my opinion,

In the long run the Ryzen 5 1600 combo would be a better option as you shouldn't just look at the performance figures alone. Wanting to stream I would definitely suggest a AMD on the higher core count.


My question,
How long do you plan on using sed specs?



The AMD option definitely has advantages, namely upgrading to a far better cpu if need be later on.
a 550w psu should be enough for the AMD combo with a 1060 6Gb.
2 years
 
Sorry I forgot to mentioned that the mobo is gigabyte a320 s2h

It's not ideal, and may limit future upgrades, but I'd still opt for the 1600 system.

Of couse the Ryzen 1600. 6 cores 12 threads. The 4790K is not playable with heavy online games like BFV 64 player, you need 6 cores minimum.

Come on now, that's just totally false.
"not playable" with a 4790K and 1060? A 4790 and 1060 is the "recommended" requirements from EA.
BFV can utilize 8 cores/threads and does perform a bit better on a "true" 6 core+ CPU, but that doesn't suddenly mean a 4790K is a 'bad' CPU.

I wouldn't run out and buy a 4790K, unless you could pick it up for a great deal.... but let's not pretend that it's suddenly obsolete.
 
It's not ideal, and may limit future upgrades, but I'd still opt for the 1600 system.



Come on now, that's just totally false.
"not playable" with a 4790K and 1060? A 4790 and 1060 is the "recommended" requirements from EA.
BFV can utilize 8 cores/threads and does perform a bit better on a "true" 6 core+ CPU, but that doesn't suddenly mean a 4790K is a 'bad' CPU.

I wouldn't run out and buy a 4790K, unless you could pick it up for a great deal.... but let's not pretend that it's suddenly obsolete.
So,I should go with i7 4790k right?
 
It's not ideal, and may limit future upgrades, but I'd still opt for the 1600 system.



Come on now, that's just totally false.
"not playable" with a 4790K and 1060? A 4790 and 1060 is the "recommended" requirements from EA.
BFV can utilize 8 cores/threads and does perform a bit better on a "true" 6 core+ CPU, but that doesn't suddenly mean a 4790K is a 'bad' CPU.

I wouldn't run out and buy a 4790K, unless you could pick it up for a great deal.... but let's not pretend that it's suddenly obsolete.
Did you try it? I had a Ryzen 1400 @4Ghz all core OC and it was loading all 8 threads to 100%. Game was unplayable, a slideshow trust me. That's the only reason I upgraded to a 1800X.

I had a Vega 64 at that time and everything became smooth after upgrading to an 1800X.

32 players was somewehat playable but not smooth. 64 player was completely unplayable.
 
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@Zizo007 if you have more to add, edit your last post.

No, I didn't try it myself -- but you realize ~50%* of 'gamers' run a quad-core? While you have to manage your settings etc, and it's not necessarily going to be optimal, "not playable" is a huge stretch.

*https://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/Steam-Hardware-Software-Survey-Welcome-to-Steam
Thanks for editing my post for me, 32 player was playable but 64 was really unplayable. What I mean is that it stutter every second like a slideshow.

Edit: Many people have issues with 4 cores and 64 player even with 4 cores better than 4790K, e.g. Skylake i7:View: https://www.reddit.com/r/Battlefield/comments/9x7b1n/bfv_extremely_bad_performance_in_64_player_games/
 
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Thanks for editing my post for me, 32 player was playable but 64 was really unplayable. What I mean is that it stutter every second like a slideshow.

Edit: Many people have issues with 4 cores and 64 player even with 4 cores better than 4790K, e.g. Skylake i7:View: https://www.reddit.com/r/Battlefield/comments/9x7b1n/bfv_extremely_bad_performance_in_64_player_games/

I'm not disputing that 64 players isn't going to be a great experience.
I wouldn't expect it to be an outright "slideshow", but I'll take your word for it.
You have to realize why that's the upper-end, and has remained so since BF1, it is extremely demanding on hardware (the CPU specifically) .

Back to the OP's point though:
I am tight on budget

So, concessions are going to have to be made. We're all on the same page that the 1600 would be the better choice of the options presented.
 
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Hi,

Depending on your motherboard, 4790k is not the latest CPU. Z97 boards are compatible with the rare Broadwell i5 and i7 CPUs. Thus, the "best" processor available for the Z97 platform is i7 5775c. Whether it is worth the money to upgrade to i7 5775c is an entirely different question as Z97 motherboards and Broadwell "C" processors command a serious premium.
 
Depending on your motherboard, 4790k is not the latest CPU. Z97 boards are compatible with the rare Broadwell i5 and i7 CPUs. Thus, the "best" processor available for the Z97 platform is i7 5775c. Whether it is worth the money to upgrade to i7 5775c is an entirely different question as Z97 motherboards and Broadwell "C" processors command a serious premium.

The OP is considering purchasing systems used.

Secondly the 5775C is "newer", sure... but it's not necessarily "best".
It's a 4c/8t CPU, just like the 4790K... but is clocked lower. It does run cooler, adds L4 cache and is overclockable.

Clock for clock
, a 5775C would outperform a 4790K - but it's not going to hit the same clocks.
 
Hi Barty1884,

The OP is considering purchasing systems used.

Assuming the used system comes with a 4790k, it will have a used motherboard that may or may not support Broadwell (hence, my comments regarding Z97)

Secondly the 5775C is "newer", sure... but it's not necessarily "best".

This was in response to a statement that 4790k cannot be upgraded to anything else. If the system has a Z97 chipset, then it can be. I used quotes in my post to designate the qualifier "best" for the obvious reasons you mentioned in your post.

5775c is faster than most other 4 core 8 thread CPUs in some games, so it can be "best" in limited circumstances. The OP will have to do his own research.

Clock for clock, a 5775C would outperform a 4790K - but it's not going to hit the same clocks.

True.

I did not want to divert the focus of the OP's thread to discuss Broadwell. My comments were designed to address the platform concerns raised in the thread specifically stating that 4790k is the final CPU on 1150 socket. It might be, but not necessarily so depending on the chipset.