so do i need a third party cooler for this cpu because i intend to overclock
You are the only one who can decide...it will depend on your room temp, case cooling, and intended use...those factors will all play a role in whats a stable overclock with safe temp and voltage. Personally I wouldn't overclock on the stock cooler...just set PBO and buy fast ram with tight timings and you'll be all set.
how fast do i want my cooler to be?If you wana get more stable all core frecuency at lower voltage and lower heat, yes OC is the way to go (atleast thats what the tests Ive done with my Ryzen 5 3600 shows). In my Ryzen 5 3600 PBO and even PB tend to drop more voltage than whats necesary to reach a stable all core fecuency (I tested this with Cinebench and Prime 95).
If all you care is about single core frecuency, then don't OC, PB and PBO will get you there. As others worte already, PB and PBO do a fairly decent job, not great, but fairly decent.
And, once again from my exprience with my Ryzen 5 3600, if you wana get the highest frecuency from it, be it all core or single core (even if you have good airflow setup case), an aftermarket cooler is always welcome.
I don't know how fast you want your cooler, you have two "easy" choices go with an AIO liquid cooler or an after market air cooler (the tower like ones).how fast do i want my cooler to be?
cas14 is the best as far as latency and at reasonable speeds like 3400mhz will provide outstanding 1% low's for gaming...cas17 and up is not so good...games will respond very well to 3400mhz cas14 and/or 3600mhz cas16 memory. The max memory speed you'd want on a average Ryzen 3600 is around 3600-3733mhz memory speed since going faster may result in the core infinity fabric running a 1:2 divider instead of the ideal 1:1 ratiohow tight are the timing supposed to be? and the intended purpose is gaming
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