[SOLVED] Ryzen 5 5600G vs Ryzen 7 5700G vs Ryzen 7 3800X for gaming?

[Sanic]

What would be better & most cost effective out of these CPU's for modern gaming:

AMD Ryzen 5 5600G 3.9 GHz 6-Core Processor $215 vs AMD Ryzen 7 5700G 3.8 GHz 8-Core Processor $285 vs AMD Ryzen 7 3800X 3.9 GHz 8-Core Processor $300 ?

Related video:
PC Gameplay Benchmark Tested

This is the build so far:
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/hNCr6r

Potential Mobo:
https://www.segotep.us/collections/motherboard/products/cvn-x570m-gaming-pro-v14
Potential GPU:
Radeon RX 6600 XT


Thank you in advanced!
-SaniK

 

[cryoburner]

If I went the intel route, wouldn't the i5 12600k be a better choice at $280 for 10 Cores 16 threads 3.7ghz boost to 4.9gh ?

For at least today's games, it's not going to make much difference, as they don't really tend to heavily utilize that many processor threads. And with a 6600 XT-class GPU, you will likely be limited by graphics performance more often than CPU performance in demanding games, so the higher clocks won't often matter much. Though for future AAA games a few years down the line, it's possible you might see some meaningful benefit from the extra threads and higher clocks. Keep in mind, both processors have 6 traditional cores supporting 12 threads, but the 12600K also includes 4 additional lower-power, single-threaded cores to improve multithreaded performance, so not all the cores are created equal.

I also heard today that AMD is releasing next gen CPU's, so I wonder if my thread will be relevant when those drops.

If you are referring to the Zen 3 refresh parts, like the Ryzen 5600 and 5700X, then it looks like those might be priced roughly similar to their Intel counterparts, at least based on rumored pricing information, so I wouldn't really expect them to offer much better value than Intel's current offerings. There's also the 5800X3D, which may bring more performance to the table, but it sounds like it might be priced around $450. Which arguably isn't worth it for gaming unless someone is pairing it with other very high-end components, as putting that money toward graphics hardware will in most cases offer more gaming performance than what can be gained from a slightly faster CPU.

They also have a more major update coming with their Zen 4 processors, but those won't likely be coming until toward the end of the year, and will likely be targeting the high-end, at least initially. Intel should also be releasing some new CPUs later in the year, though again, I wouldn't expect them for over half a year, and it's hard to say whether they will offer significantly more value than the current models. So, probably not worth considering unless you plan to wait until much later in the year for your build while waiting to see if graphics card prices improve.

One other thing to add, you almost certainly won't see much benefit from getting a $160 cooler for any of these CPUs, so I would go with something costing around a third as much, and putting that money toward components that will actually have an effect on performance.

 

[Lutfij]

Did you purchase the motherboard listed above? If not, please don't buy into that brand. If anything look into another more reputable brand...at least an Asus to understand what your board can and cannot support. Yes the socket will support Ryzen 7 3800x but I'm leaning on the side of doubt when it comes to a brand that lists it's BIOS versions like this.

As for the processor, I'd side with a discrete processor provided you've got a discrete GPU to work with, considering the Ryzen 7 3800x does not have an iGPU, nor does the motherboard.

 

[Sanic]

That was a fast reply, thank you! That Segotep mobo does fit the socket, had alot of the ports I wanted on the back, fan cooler for the 2x high speed M.2 storage I plan to install, and all around looked pretty cool with the colors and RGB lighting. I didn't think to look into the BIOS versions, thank you for that tip!

I will be purchasing a dedicated GPU as prices continue to fall, so I left it off the list for now. That being said, is the iGPU necessary with a dedicated GPU?

 

[Bob.B]

That was a fast reply, thank you! That Segotep mobo does fit the socket, had alot of the ports I wanted on the back, fan cooler for the 2x high speed M.2 storage I plan to install, and all around looked pretty cool with the colors and RGB lighting. I didn't think to look into the BIOS versions, thank you for that tip!

I will be purchasing a dedicated GPU as prices continue to fall, so I left it off the list for now. That being said, is the iGPU necessary with a dedicated GPU?

If you don't get the 5600/5700g with an igp how did you plan on using the machine until you get a gpu?

 

[Barty1884]

I will be purchasing a dedicated GPU as prices continue to fall, so I left it off the list for now. That being said, is the iGPU necessary with a dedicated GPU?

Then the 3800X shouldn't be an option, unless you have an older GPU to use in the meantime.

Cost-effective wise, the 5600G will net you most of the gaming performance of a 5700G, for 75% the money.
The 5700G will likely have more legs long-term as an 8c/16t chip....and has the stronger graphics in the meantime. Only you can decide on that front.

 

[mdd1963]

I will be purchasing a dedicated GPU as prices continue to fall, so I left it off the list for now. That being said, is the iGPU necessary with a dedicated GPU?

You only need integrated graphics if you have no discrete GPU; if getting a discrete GPU, the 'G' models make no sense (over a non-G processor, which performs better anyway) other than as a more expensive stopgap while waiting on a discrete GPU to arrive...; if you have a discrete GPU, the 5600X is now priced nicely.

 

[Sanic]

Haven't decided on Mobo or GPU, but will happily take suggestions. I was thinking of going for a Radeon RX 6600 XT as prices continue to fall.

I also heard today that AMD is releasing next gen CPU's, so I wonder if my thread will be relevant when those drops.

The 5600g does seem like the go to cost effectiveness, however I was thinking 5 years down the road will it be able to handle new games or would it be worth the extra money to future resist by spending more money now and sticking with the other two listed.

I have always wanted to get into overclocking but afraid of bricking my build.

 

[logainofhades]

Since you are going to have a dedicated GPU, Intel 12th gen is the way to go.

 

[jacob249358]

I would go with the 12400. it has integrated graphics and beats all three of those cpus

 

[Sanic]

If I went the intel route, wouldn't the i5 12600k be a better choice at $280 for 10 Cores 16 threads 3.7ghz boost to 4.9gh ?

 

[cryoburner]

If I went the intel route, wouldn't the i5 12600k be a better choice at $280 for 10 Cores 16 threads 3.7ghz boost to 4.9gh ?

For at least today's games, it's not going to make much difference, as they don't really tend to heavily utilize that many processor threads. And with a 6600 XT-class GPU, you will likely be limited by graphics performance more often than CPU performance in demanding games, so the higher clocks won't often matter much. Though for future AAA games a few years down the line, it's possible you might see some meaningful benefit from the extra threads and higher clocks. Keep in mind, both processors have 6 traditional cores supporting 12 threads, but the 12600K also includes 4 additional lower-power, single-threaded cores to improve multithreaded performance, so not all the cores are created equal.

I also heard today that AMD is releasing next gen CPU's, so I wonder if my thread will be relevant when those drops.

If you are referring to the Zen 3 refresh parts, like the Ryzen 5600 and 5700X, then it looks like those might be priced roughly similar to their Intel counterparts, at least based on rumored pricing information, so I wouldn't really expect them to offer much better value than Intel's current offerings. There's also the 5800X3D, which may bring more performance to the table, but it sounds like it might be priced around $450. Which arguably isn't worth it for gaming unless someone is pairing it with other very high-end components, as putting that money toward graphics hardware will in most cases offer more gaming performance than what can be gained from a slightly faster CPU.

They also have a more major update coming with their Zen 4 processors, but those won't likely be coming until toward the end of the year, and will likely be targeting the high-end, at least initially. Intel should also be releasing some new CPUs later in the year, though again, I wouldn't expect them for over half a year, and it's hard to say whether they will offer significantly more value than the current models. So, probably not worth considering unless you plan to wait until much later in the year for your build while waiting to see if graphics card prices improve.

One other thing to add, you almost certainly won't see much benefit from getting a $160 cooler for any of these CPUs, so I would go with something costing around a third as much, and putting that money toward components that will actually have an effect on performance.