[SOLVED] ryzen 5 5600x or ryzen 7 5800x? which cpu upgrade should i go for?

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Hi, I want to upgrade my PC and thinking of to install ryzen 5 5600x or ryzen 7 5800x in my B450 Tomahawk Max(JUST GOT THE BIOS UPDATE;)) but seems that it has a extreme heating issues with ryzen 7 (Not going to overclock it!!! And I am also Limited to 240mm AIO or air cooler with height of 159mm that's my case supporting)
I also want to install the graphic card as well I don't know which gpu should go with as rtx 3060 or 3070 or amd 6800xt(Any suggestions are appreciated)

But you Guys know that there are shortage for these gpu or they are just tooooooooooooo.... much overpriced and I also concerned about the PCIe gen3 and gen4

my current spec(Any kind of other upgrade that is need! Please let me know):
cpu: ryzen 5 3400g(stock cooler)
ram: 16gb(corsair vengeances 3200mhz)
ssd: 500gb(Crucial MX500)
hdd:500gb(WD blue)
Psu: 550w(cooler master)

Anyone here to guide me with this?
 

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With the heat sinks provided in the tomahawk max, it can surely handle the 5800x, problem is that there is bios issues while installing the 5800x, as it looks like it's an hit and miss thing, like a trial and error thing, so if you are upgrading to a zen3, you have to be patient and try various methods to make it work. I would suggest a r7 3700x or an 3900x for this mobo rather than a 5800x. Things are murky for 5800x with an Msi tomahawk max, I have a x570 board running an ryzen 5 3600. I chose a basic x570 over an good b450 like tomahawk max mainly because of this bios issues, now I can seamlessly upgrade to an 5600x. So I suggest an 3700x or even a 3900x based on your budget, and it will be a good upgrade from an 3400g.

For psu rtx 3060 minimum req is 550watts, but builders like me will recommend a 650watts because we would never want to tread on the minimum line.

As for coolers your cpu supports a 159mm cooler, so you can easily fit an performance cooler for an 3700x, for an 3900x go for an liquid cooler which your case supports.
 
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Cpu wise You've got options, eco mode and disabling pbo should put you in a safe place temp wise. Once you're comfortable you can play around.

Get whatever gpu you can, and make sure you have cash for a bigger power supply if you need it.
 
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Hi, I want to upgrade my PC and thinking of to install ryzen 5 5600x or ryzen 7 5800x in my B450 Tomahawk Max(JUST GOT THE BIOS UPDATE;)) but seems that it has a extreme heating issues with ryzen 7 (Not going to overclock it!!! And I am also Limited to 240mm AIO or air cooler with height of 159mm that's my case supporting)
I also want to install the graphic card as well I don't know which gpu should go with as rtx 3060 or 3070 or amd 6800xt(Any suggestions are appreciated)

But you Guys know that there are shortage for these gpu or they are just tooooooooooooo.... much overpriced and I also concerned about the PCIe gen3 and gen4

my current spec(Any kind of other upgrade that is need! Please let me know):
cpu: ryzen 5 3400g(stock cooler)
ram: 16gb(corsair vengeances 3200mhz)
ssd: 500gb(Crucial MX500)
hdd:500gb(WD blue)
Psu: 550w(cooler master)

Anyone here to guide me with this?
If you don't multi-task much then 5600x is right for you, otherwise go for the 8 core one. If you steam and play games, or editing videos or into heavy stuff then go for the 8 core one.

If you live in hot area like mine, with an tower cooler like my Antec A400 which cools my 3600, i get 43 idle and 75 gaming (degree c).
I have a cheap chiptronexx gx2000 with three intake and one rear, all 240mm fans,
If you don't overclock for an 5600x an tower cooler will do like Antec A400, and if you gonna buy the 8 core provided you have space, then you can get a synthe mugen 5 with dual fans or an Aio as you mentioned.

You need to replace your psu to a bronze 650watts for the rtx 3060.

Yes gpu shortage is there if you can then get a 1650 now and an RTX 3060 later when the price comes down, sell your 1650 in olx or something. But even 1650 costs 30000 rupees
So my advice is wait for the gpu prices to come down, and try to source an second hand gpu, or buy an gt 710 for 7000 inr to just boot your pc and sell it later.

As of now even the rtx 3080 has not saturated the gen3 pci 16 bandwidth much, since your b450 does not have pci4 don't worry about it much.
 
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What is the exact case that you have?
List the exact make/model of that cooler master PSU.
Budget?
System usage?
Monitor resolution?
Why do you want to upgrade?
I haven't decided the budget yet!!
PSU: cooler master mwe 550 v2 230v,80 plus bronze certified
I want to upgrade the cpu and i dont have a gpu(I want to upgrade gpu too)
Usage: I use 2-5 virtual machices at a same time i need more proccessing power
am also going to upgrade monitor as well in 24 inch currently i have 19inch AOC mointor(sorry my spec config is really bad)
for case : ant esports ice 200tg
 

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If you don't multi-task much then 5600x is right for you, otherwise go for the 8 core one. If you steam and play games, or editing videos or into heavy stuff then go for the 8 core one.

If you live in hot area like mine, with an tower cooler like my Antec A400 which cools my 3600, i get 43 idle and 75 gaming (degree c).
I have a cheap chiptronexx gx2000 with three intake and one rear, all 240mm fans,
If you don't overclock for an 5600x an tower cooler will do like Antec A400, and if you gonna buy the 8 core provided you have space, then you can get a synthe mugen 5 with dual fans or an Aio as you mentioned.

You need to replace your psu to a bronze 650watts for the rtx 3060.

Yes gpu shortage is there if you can then get a 1650 now and an RTX 3060 later when the price comes down, sell your 1650 in olx or something. But even 1650 costs 30000 rupees
So my advice is wait for the gpu prices to come down, and try to source an second hand gpu, or buy an gt 710 for 7000 inr to just boot your pc and sell it later.

As of now even the rtx 3080 has not saturated the gen3 pci 16 bandwidth much, since your b450 does not have pci4 don't worry about it much.
I just don't know whether the air coolers will fit into my pc or not and can you let me know about heating issues that b40 generates at r7 5800x i have seen couple of youtube videos that suggest not to use r7 5800x in b450 as there VRAM is getting too hot

My Case: ant esports ice 200tg
 

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With the heat sinks provided in the tomahawk max, it can surely handle the 5800x, problem is that there is bios issues while installing the 5800x, as it looks like it's an hit and miss thing, like a trial and error thing, so if you are upgrading to a zen3, you have to be patient and try various methods to make it work. I would suggest a r7 3700x or an 3900x for this mobo rather than a 5800x. Things are murky for 5800x with an Msi tomahawk max, I have a x570 board running an ryzen 5 3600. I chose a basic x570 over an good b450 like tomahawk max mainly because of this bios issues, now I can seamlessly upgrade to an 5600x. So I suggest an 3700x or even a 3900x based on your budget, and it will be a good upgrade from an 3400g.

For psu rtx 3060 minimum req is 550watts, but builders like me will recommend a 650watts because we would never want to tread on the minimum line.

As for coolers your cpu supports a 159mm cooler, so you can easily fit an performance cooler for an 3700x, for an 3900x go for an liquid cooler which your case supports.
 
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I haven't decided the budget yet!!
PSU: cooler master mwe 550 v2 230v,80 plus bronze certified
I want to upgrade the cpu and i dont have a gpu(I want to upgrade gpu too)
Usage: I use 2-5 virtual machices at a same time i need more proccessing power
am also going to upgrade monitor as well in 24 inch currently i have 19inch AOC mointor(sorry my spec config is really bad)
for case : ant esports ice 200tg
Just to be crystal clear about it, you do NOT game on this machine ?
It is for VM ? Which OS are you going to run ?
If not for gaming or deep learning (with NVIDIA), why do you choose such a powerful and expensive GPU (at present prices ?)

For running all your VM, the 5600x would be quite sufficient (heck even a 3600 would be) but I would go for 32 Go of RAM (not 16 GO)
 

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