Ryzen 7 1700 vs. 1700x

[Mike_651]

I wanted to ask whether it is better to buy the ryzen 1700 or 1700x with what is currently known. I plan on building the new system with 16gb (2 8gb sticks) of 3000 or 3200mhz ram, an Asus motherboard, and a vega gpu when it comes out. I plan on using the desktop for office work, gaming on ultra at 1080p and at least 60fps, and programming. I am set on ryzen and do not want to purchase an intel cpu. I also want to make sure my cpu will be future proof. Thank you for your time.

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[Robert Cook]

Well they are pretty much the same thing, except the 1700X is faster out of the box, and the 1700 is slower, but uses less power. (optimized for lower power, and also running slower uses less power) despite the ffact that the 1700 would ideally not overclock as high, they both hit a wall at 3.9-4.1 GHz so as long as you get a decent VRM X370/X350 board you will be fine. (that is if you want to overclock. (either way get a good VRM).

 

[Supahos]

Seems "more" likely you'll get 4.0-4.1 with a 1700x than a 1700 but if you don't plan to push it to the max just get a 1700

 

[Robert Cook]

Seems "more" likely you'll get 4.0-4.1 with a 1700x than a 1700 but if you don't plan to push it to the max just get a 1700

Is that just due to the fact that there are more 1700X chips out and about and thus we hear more 4.0GHz stories? I can see 4.1 and 4.2 likely occurring on the 1700X, but also memory speeds supported are a total crapshoot, and those can play a much bigger role. either way that makes sense.

 

[Supahos]

The 1700x is a higher binned chip. I'll guarantee there have been more 1700 than 1700x chips sold. I bet 90% of r7 sales are either 1800x or 1700. Amazon's CPU list seems to show similar, though now the 1600 is their best seller for ryzen not surprisingly. I've not personally laid hands on them but from the reviews I've seen most 1700xs hit at least 4.0 less than half of the 1700 reviews did

 

[Robert Cook]

The 1700x is a higher binned chip. I'll guarantee there have been more 1700 than 1700x chips sold. I bet 90% of r7 sales are either 1800x or 1700. Amazon's CPU list seems to show similar, though now the 1600 is their best seller for ryzen not surprisingly. I've not personally laid hands on them but from the reviews I've seen most 1700xs hit at least 4.0 less than half of the 1700 reviews did

Well go figure, I figured the X would make it sell better. Thanks for pointing that out, I never knew that. the 1700 is indeed binned for low leakage and thus lower power draw, would the 1800X have a slightly higher bin than the 1700X? (not that it would be worth it either way)

 

[marko55]

4.0 on even a 1700x isn't guaranteed by any means. I built one and just couldn't get stable even at 1.45 and at that voltage it puts out serious heat! Oddly enough mine runs at 3950 like a champ at 1.375v.

If you really want 4.0 get an 1800x. Even though they turbo to 4.0 it will perform better manually OC'd to 4.0. It's very rare to even get an 1800 to 4.1 truly stable.

These chips just don't OC well. I built a 1600x to, which turbos too 4.0 and I actually can't get it stable at all above 4.0.

I've been recommending getting a 1700 and pushing as close to 3.9 as possible and you've got a hell of a CPU for under $300! I'd grab an asrock board. The power phases are awesome and lots of features. You could pair that with a gtx 1060 and probably be well over 60 fps. Pair with a 1070 and you're talking over 100.

 

[Supahos]

Yes the 1800x is the best binned of the bunch, would only be worth it to me for someone unwilling to oc themselves or in a situation where budget wasn't much of a concern

 

[Robert Cook]

4.0 on even a 1700x isn't guaranteed by any means. I built one and just couldn't get stable even at 1.45 and at that voltage it puts out serious heat! Oddly enough mine runs at 3950 like a champ at 1.375v.

If you really want 4.0 get an 1800x. Even though they turbo to 4.0 it will perform better manually OC'd to 4.0. It's very rare to even get an 1800 to 4.1 truly stable.

These chips just don't OC well. I built a 1600x to, which turbos too 4.0 and I actually can't get it stable at all above 4.0.

I've been recommending getting a 1700 and pushing as close to 3.9 as possible and you've got a hell of a CPU for under $300! I'd grab an asrock board. The power phases are awesome and lots of features. You could pair that with a gtx 1060 and probably be well over 60 fps. Pair with a 1070 and you're talking over 100.

Just watch out, Asrock has one 350X board with a fake 6 phase that is actually a three phase. I would go X370