ryzen 7 2700X and || 3200Mhz or 3000Mhz ||

[zxcasdqwe]

Is it better to get 3200Mhz Corsair ram with ryzen 7 2700X and gigabyte x470 aorus ultra gaming or 3000Mhz Corsiar ram ? (both 16 gb 2x8)

While the 3200Mhz Corsair is not on the qvl list of that mobo, it is tested and seem to work fine by only enabling XMP in this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iy1oXWizQfY

But the 3000 corsair is on the mobo qvl, and they are both at the same price

So do you think that i should get the 3200Mhz (is not QVL list of mobo but tested in video) or 3000Mhz (is on the QVL list of mbo)

Please if anyone can help

 

[jojesa]

If you are getting the same motherboard go with the 3200MHz otherwise get the Corsair 3000MHz from the QVL.
You won't see a difference in performance anyways.

 

[Rogue Leader]

If you are getting the same motherboard go with the 3200MHz otherwise get the Corsair 3000MHz from the QVL.
You won't see a difference in performance anyways.

Memory speed significantly affects Ryzen. You should always get the fastest memory you can afford and the system will support with Ryzen.

OP get the 3200mhz memory definitely. Use the Ryzen memory calculator to help you with settings it works great

https://www.overclock.net/forum/13-amd-general/1640919-ryzen-dram-calculator-1-1-0-beta-2-overclocking-dram-am4.html

 

[bmockeg]

It's all gonna run at 2933mhz

 

[Rogue Leader]

It's all gonna run at 2933mhz

No its not. That board can support up to 3200 Mhz ram. You need to manually set it or use the built in XMP profiles.

 

[jojesa]

Memory speed significantly affects Ryzen. You should always get the fastest memory you can afford and the system will support with Ryzen.

OP get the 3200mhz memory definitely. Use the Ryzen memory calculator to help you with settings it works great

https://www.overclock.net/forum/13-amd-general/1640919-ryzen-dram-calculator-1-1-0-beta-2-overclocking-dram-am4.html

What do you mean by "Memory speed significantly affects Ryzen"
I see the difference on benchmarks, but when I build systems I don't see the difference.
Between 2400MHz and 3200MHz, I see 1 to 3 FPS when gaming.
On video editing and video conversion maybe a second....I don't see a difference.
Web browsing, word processing, etc none.

 

[Rogue Leader]

Memory speed significantly affects Ryzen. You should always get the fastest memory you can afford and the system will support with Ryzen.

OP get the 3200mhz memory definitely. Use the Ryzen memory calculator to help you with settings it works great

https://www.overclock.net/forum/13-amd-general/1640919-ryzen-dram-calculator-1-1-0-beta-2-overclocking-dram-am4.html

What do you mean by "Memory speed significantly affects Ryzen"
I see the difference on benchmarks, but when I build systems I don't see the difference.
Between 2400MHz and 3200MHz, I see 1 to 3 FPS when gaming.
On video editing and video conversion maybe a second....I don't see a difference.
Web browsing, word processing, etc none.

I mean exactly what i said, its does and has been proven repeatedly. I'll take the real benchmarks over your anecdotal evidence. No you're not going to feel it seat of the pants running a spreadsheet or a word doc. But the OP also said they are the exact same price, so lets just say it is 1-3 fps, its the same price may as well get the better ram.

 

[TechyInAZ]

With the original Ryzen CPUs, memory speed definitely affected them a LOT. Fortunately with Ryzen 2's optimizations to cache latency and memory latency, its not as big of a deal, but there is still a big improvement when going with faster RAM.

For Ryzen 2, 3000mhz or 3200MHz is fine, just make sure the 3000mhz has has timings at 16 or below (for the CAS specifically).

jojesa, you are correct. Heck, 2133mhz RAM would be fine for word processing, web processing etc etc. But for heavier tasks like gaming and rendering, memory speed does mean a lot for Ryzen.

Max memory mulitplier for X370 and X470 I believe is 4200MHz, so it's NOT going to ALL run at 2933mhz. It's just with non QVL rated memory, it is not guaranteed to run at it's rated speed.

So bottom line, OP I'd recommend you get either 3200MHz with slighly higher latency of 15-16 (lower is better but lower also means more of a chance you need to play with SOC voltage to get it running stable), or just buy 3000mhz low latency RAM (QVL listed or not). 3000mhz on Ryzen by now is pretty easy to hit.

FYI, both me and Rogue Leader are running Ryzen 7 CPUs with 3200MHz dual channel kits.

 

[bmockeg]

Get the 3200mhz

 

[jojesa]

It's all gonna run at 2933mhz

No its not. That board can support up to 3200 Mhz ram. You need to manually set it or use the built in XMP profiles.

My ASRock AB350 Pro4 motherboard supports 3200MHz but Corsair Vengeance 16GB 3200MHz does not run one digit above 3000MHz without issues.
Well, let me clarified that... it runs at 3200MHz but then Windows 10 freezes and hangs. Corsair and ASRock support gave up trying manually to set the RAM speed, voltages, CAS, tRAS, etc..all efforts futile.

Since the 3200MHz is not listed on the QVL, and is not tested, it might not even work at 3000MHz.
Why take the chance?
It will be easy for some to spend time finding the right settings manually but unfortunately that's not realistic for most people.

 

[Rogue Leader]

It's all gonna run at 2933mhz

No its not. That board can support up to 3200 Mhz ram. You need to manually set it or use the built in XMP profiles.

My ASRock AB350 Pro4 motherboard supports 3200MHz but Corsair Vengeance 16GB 3200MHz does not run one digit above 3000MHz without issues.
Well, let me clarified it runs at 3200MHz but then Windows 10 freezes and hangs. Corsair and ASRock gave up trying manually to set the RAM speed, voltages, CAS, tRAS, etc..all efforts futile.

Ok, but what relevance does that have to the OP whom is running a Gigabyte X470 board?

My Crosshair VI had a hard time above 2800mhz until some BIOS updates were made, within a short time it ran at 3200mhz no problem. That was over a year ago as I got it at launch. Ryzen memory issues have been largely resolved. Ryzen memory calculator which I linked above helps quite a bit with settings.

Since the 3200MHz is not listed on the QVL, and is not tested, it might not even work at 3000MHz.
Why take the chance?
It will be easy for some to spend time finding the right settings manually but unfortunately that's not realistic for most people.

Because there literally is a video online of someone doing it, the board is rated for it, Ryzen memory problems have been largely worked out, If hes using Corsair vengeance LPX memory its Samsung B-die which is the most compatible, there is overwhelming evidence that it will work.

He doesn't even need to spend time finding settings XMP should work, if it doesn't the memory calculator will do it for him.

 

[TechyInAZ]

To support Rogue Leader, my Crosshair VI Hero runs my Corsair Vengeance RGB 3200MHz right out of the box since I built the system in 2017, so it all just depends on the silicon lottery, and BIOS updates. BIOS updates help significantly, they are an absolute necessity.

 

[jojesa]

To support Rogue Leader, my Crosshair VI Hero runs my Corsair Vengeance RGB 3200MHz right out of the box since I built the system in 2017, so it all just depends on the silicon lottery, and BIOS updates. BIOS updates help significantly, they are an absolute necessity.

"...so it all just depends on the silicon lottery"
That's what I was trying to convey

 

[Rogue Leader]

To support Rogue Leader, my Crosshair VI Hero runs my Corsair Vengeance RGB 3200MHz right out of the box since I built the system in 2017, so it all just depends on the silicon lottery, and BIOS updates. BIOS updates help significantly, they are an absolute necessity.

"...so it all just depends on the silicon lottery"
That's what I was trying to convey

As I said Ryzen memory problems are largely gone, there is overwhelming evidence this will work fine.