[SOLVED] Ryzen 7 2700x upgrading or should I wait?

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Hello. I am owner of Ryzen 7 2700X right now and of course I am a gamer.

I am wondering if I should upgrade my R7 2700X to something new? Intel i9 9900k? Or should I just wait for Ryzen 3xxx?

My PC looks like :

Graphic card - Gigabyte GTX 1080 8 GB
Power supply - Seasonic PRIME Ultra Gold 650W
Motherboard - Asus Prime X470-PRO (Of course I will change it for intel socket if needed)
RAM - G.Skill Trident Z DDR4-3200 16GB (2x8GB)
Cooler - Dark Rock Pro 4
Case - Sharkoon TG5
Monitor - PG248Q - 180 Hz

Is it worth waiting for 3xxx or will Intel i9 9900k will be enough?
What I have read is that 9900k has very high heat and I am pretty sure I don't really want to change to liquid cooler.
 
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Normally, a 2700X will game very well.
Possibly, your games are dependent on single thread performance, in which case a 9th gen intel will OC to 5.0.
2700X will oc to the 4.3 range.
Rumor has it that ryzen 3000 will match current intel @5.0
I7-9700K@5.0 is likely to do as well for you as a 9900K.

My guess is that you would do better with a graphics card upgrade.

Here is my stock answer:
Some games are graphics limited like fast action shooters.
Others are cpu core speed limited like strategy, sims, and mmo.
Multiplayer tends to like many threads.

You need to find out which.
------------------------------------------------------------
To help clarify your CPU/GPU options, run these two tests:

a) Run YOUR games, but lower...
Hello. I am owner of Ryzen 7 2700X right now and of course I am a gamer.

I am wondering if I should upgrade my R7 2700X to something new? Intel i9 9900k? Or should I just wait for Ryzen 3xxx?

My PC looks like :

Graphic card - Gigabyte GTX 1080 8 GB
Power supply - Seasonic PRIME Ultra Gold 650W
Motherboard - Asus Prime X470-PRO (Of course I will change it for intel socket if needed)
RAM - G.Skill Trident Z DDR4-3200 16GB (2x8GB)
Cooler - Dark Rock Pro 4
Case - Sharkoon TG5
Monitor - PG248Q - 180 Hz

Is it worth waiting for 3xxx or will Intel i9 9900k will be enough?
What I have read is that 9900k has very high heat and I am pretty sure I don't really want to change to liquid cooler.
You don't need to upgrade your cpu is overkill for now but if you want to upgrade you better wait for ryzen new generation .
 
Hello. I am owner of Ryzen 7 2700X right now and of course I am a gamer.

I am wondering if I should upgrade my R7 2700X to something new? Intel i9 9900k? Or should I just wait for Ryzen 3xxx?

My PC looks like :

Graphic card - Gigabyte GTX 1080 8 GB
Power supply - Seasonic PRIME Ultra Gold 650W
Motherboard - Asus Prime X470-PRO (Of course I will change it for intel socket if needed)
RAM - G.Skill Trident Z DDR4-3200 16GB (2x8GB)
Cooler - Dark Rock Pro 4
Case - Sharkoon TG5
Monitor - PG248Q - 180 Hz

Is it worth waiting for 3xxx or will Intel i9 9900k will be enough?
What I have read is that 9900k has very high heat and I am pretty sure I don't really want to change to liquid cooler.
definatly wait for ryzen 3000 series and new ryzen 9!!
 
Normally, a 2700X will game very well.
Possibly, your games are dependent on single thread performance, in which case a 9th gen intel will OC to 5.0.
2700X will oc to the 4.3 range.
Rumor has it that ryzen 3000 will match current intel @5.0
I7-9700K@5.0 is likely to do as well for you as a 9900K.

My guess is that you would do better with a graphics card upgrade.

Here is my stock answer:
Some games are graphics limited like fast action shooters.
Others are cpu core speed limited like strategy, sims, and mmo.
Multiplayer tends to like many threads.

You need to find out which.
------------------------------------------------------------
To help clarify your CPU/GPU options, run these two tests:

a) Run YOUR games, but lower your resolution and eye candy.
If your FPS increases, it indicates that your cpu is strong enough to drive a better graphics configuration.
If your FPS stays the same, you are likely more cpu limited.

b) Limit your cpu, either by reducing the OC, or, in windows power management, limit the maximum cpu% to something like 70%.
Go to control panel/power options/change plan settings/change advanced power settings/processor power management/maximum processor state/
This will simulate what a lack of cpu power will do.
Conversely what a 30% improvement in core speed might do.

You should also experiment with removing one or more cores/threads. You can do this in the windows msconfig boot advanced options option.
You will need to reboot for the change to take effect. Set the number of threads to less than you have.
This will tell you how sensitive your games are to the benefits of many threads.
If you see little difference, your game does not need all the threads you have.



It is possible that both tests are positive, indicating that you have a well balanced system,
and both cpu and gpu need to be upgraded to get better gaming FPS.
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What resolution are you playing at?
1920x1080

Normally, a 2700X will game very well.
Possibly, your games are dependent on single thread performance, in which case a 9th gen intel will OC to 5.0.
2700X will oc to the 4.3 range.
Rumor has it that ryzen 3000 will match current intel @5.0
I7-9700K@5.0 is likely to do as well for you as a 9900K.

My guess is that you would do better with a graphics card upgrade.

Here is my stock answer:
Some games are graphics limited like fast action shooters.
Others are cpu core speed limited like strategy, sims, and mmo.
Multiplayer tends to like many threads.

You need to find out which.
------------------------------------------------------------
To help clarify your CPU/GPU options, run these two tests:

a) Run YOUR games, but lower your resolution and eye candy.
If your FPS increases, it indicates that your cpu is strong enough to drive a better graphics configuration.
If your FPS stays the same, you are likely more cpu limited.

b) Limit your cpu, either by reducing the OC, or, in windows power management, limit the maximum cpu% to something like 70%.
Go to control panel/power options/change plan settings/change advanced power settings/processor power management/maximum processor state/
This will simulate what a lack of cpu power will do.
Conversely what a 30% improvement in core speed might do.

You should also experiment with removing one or more cores/threads. You can do this in the windows msconfig boot advanced options option.
You will need to reboot for the change to take effect. Set the number of threads to less than you have.
This will tell you how sensitive your games are to the benefits of many threads.
If you see little difference, your game does not need all the threads you have.



It is possible that both tests are positive, indicating that you have a well balanced system,
and both cpu and gpu need to be upgraded to get better gaming FPS.
-------------------------------------------------------------
I do really appreciate your long and detailed answer, thank you! I'll check it out and after long thinking I'll most likely stay with AMD CPU for now and for later, so I'll just wait for 3xxx.
 
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Hello. I am owner of Ryzen 7 2700X right now and of course I am a gamer.

I am wondering if I should upgrade my R7 2700X to something new? Intel i9 9900k? Or should I just wait for Ryzen 3xxx?

My PC looks like :

Graphic card - Gigabyte GTX 1080 8 GB
Power supply - Seasonic PRIME Ultra Gold 650W
Motherboard - Asus Prime X470-PRO (Of course I will change it for intel socket if needed)
RAM - G.Skill Trident Z DDR4-3200 16GB (2x8GB)
Cooler - Dark Rock Pro 4
Case - Sharkoon TG5
Monitor - PG248Q - 180 Hz

Is it worth waiting for 3xxx or will Intel i9 9900k will be enough?
What I have read is that 9900k has very high heat and I am pretty sure I don't really want to change to liquid cooler.
I would recommend switching to intel entirely if you have the money to spend (which you clearly do by the way). Go for i7 or i9 series. 8th or 9th gen.
 

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