Question Ryzen 7 4800H 1660ti vs i5-10500H 1660ti laptop? Need some advice

[Souvik Chatterjee]

Two laptops currently under consideration for gaming purpose which
are as follows:
MSI GF65 I5 10500h hexa core with 6GB 1660ti with 512 GB ssd, 16GB Ram 144HZ monitor and windows 10
Vs
ASUS TUF A17 Ryzen 7 4800H octa core with 1660ti 6GB graphics and 1TB Hdd, 120Hz monitor 256 SSd 16GB Ram and windows 10.
I am not much well versed with Ryzen and need to choose between these two for primarily offline gaming on modern AAA titles at high or Very high settings. Both laptops have 1080p monitors and the Ryzen 7 4800h laptop has a 17.3 inch display whereas the MSI has a 15.6 inch display.
Please advise so that I don't find my investment in either one futile.
Thanks in advance.

 

[Johnson Mike]

Let's talk about the processors because that seems like the most important thing to decide and I think that would ultimately lead you to your final choice.

If you don't know both the processors are from last year. If you can increase your budget there are laptops with latest 11th Gen Intel processors and AMD Ryzen 5000 series processors available.

However, if you are willing to save, then the laptops from one year back can get you a lot of value for the price and since the main aim behind buying these laptops is gaming, I guess you'll be fine.

Coming back to these laptops, the MSI has i5-10300H quad-core processor with 2.5GHz base and 4.5GHz turbo clock speed. Its rated TDP is 45W and is based on 14nm process. Whereas the Ryzen 7 4800H on ASUS is an octa-core processor with 2.9GHz base and 4.2GHz turbo clock speed. It also has TDP of 45W but it's based on 7nm process.

Here AMD has a clear lead if we consider the number of cores. Although Intel has slightly higher turbo clock speed, the Ryzen 7's 8-cores can easily compensate for that and outperform i5 with huge margin. Now if we consider the TDP then both are 45W CPUs but Intel is made on 14nm process and AMD is made on 7nm process.

All that in simpler terms - Intel is slow, yet it consumes the same amount of power as Ryzen 7 and it would also generate more heat. Meaning, Ryzen 7 is faster and more efficient running processor among these CPUs.

Also, AMD Ryzen 7 is more comparable to the Intel's Core i7 than Core i5. In that regard, the Ryzen 7 4800H also outperforms Core i7-10750H is some workloads.

Now, if you don't understand all these terms then clock speed is the speed metric of the processor and TDP is the amount of power CPU consumes and 7nm and 14nm are lithography (size) of the AMD and Intel processors respectively.

Bigger the size, more power it will consume and more power consumption and big size means more heat so it needs to be cooled properly to sustain turbo clocks for longer period of time.

Conclusion - ASUS TUF A17 is more powerful than the MSI GF65 that too with a huge margin.

 

[Souvik Chatterjee]

The MSI GF65 has a hexa core processor not a quad core processor. I have mentioned that in the original post. It has a base clock of 2.5 Ghz and max turbo of 4.5 Ghz. It uses 6 cores and 12 threads at 4.2 Ghz while gaming.
So now the main question is, how good is it compared to the Ryzen 4800H octa core.
Kindly place your views on this.
Awaiting your response.

 

[Johnson Mike]

Can you send the link to the product? The "i5-10300H" which you've mentioned in question is quad-core not hexa core. If it's hexa core then it will be i7-10750H not i5.

By the way the Ryzen 7 4800H is also powerful than i7-10750H in workloads. If you are planning to use it for content creation and use Adobe suite then get Intel because Adobe is better optimized for Intel than AMD.

For gaming AMD is still better choice.

You can check the different benchmark scores of all the three CPUs -
Intel Core i5-10300H SoC - Benchmarks and Specs - NotebookCheck.net Tech
Intel Core i7-10750H Processor - Benchmarks and Specs - NotebookCheck.net Tech
AMD Ryzen 7 4800H Laptop Processor - Benchmarks and Specs - NotebookCheck.net Tech

 

[Souvik Chatterjee]

It seems you've misread the CPU variant of i5 which I have mentioned in my original question. I was talking about the 'i5-10500H' and not the 'i5-10300h' you're talking about.
Check the links as follows:
https://www.intel.com/content/www/u...0500h-processor-12m-cache-up-to-4-50-ghz.html

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The first link is of the hexa core variant of the i5 10th gen and the second link is of the product I'm looking forward to buy.
I hope this clears your confusion.

 

[Johnson Mike]

Holy smokes. My eyes tricked me into thinking it as 10300H. No problem.
Let's compare i5-10500H with Ryzen 7 4800H.
So, the Intel has 6-cores, 45W TDP and 2.5-4.5 GHz clock speed, whereas Ryzen 7 4800H has 8-cores, 45W TDP and 2.9-4.2 GHz clock speed.

The same answer applies here as well. If we consider the number of cores Ryzen 7 wins. Although, i5-10500H has slightly higher turbo boost speed, the extra 2-cores on the Ryzen 7 4800H would easily compensate for that and outperform this Intel chip.

The Intel Core i5-10500H is also based on 14nm process whereas AMD Ryzen 7 4800H is 7nm chip. Smaller size means less heat and cooler operation. Also, good for longevity of laptops.

 

[Souvik Chatterjee]

Much thanks for following up on this thread. I will consider your latest reply before choosing the correct machine.
Unfortunately the Ryzen 7 4800H laptop is out of stock currently.
I'll keep my eye on any other machine that fits my budget.
Humble Regards.

 

[Jack2341]

I think you should choose ASUS TUF A17 Ryzen 7 4800H. It is faster and more powerful than the MSI GF65 I5. Also, the size of its screen is more suitable for games.