[SOLVED] Ryzen 7 5800X is having heating issues

[jimij1220]

Hi there, I have a Ryzen 7 5800X and I use a Cooler Master H412R CPU Cooler. Whenever I start up my PC, I always have to open Ryzen Master to set my cpu at a lower clock speed so it doesn't overheat. When I am playing games such as Elden Ring, my CPU can get to 90 degrees (C) and overheat. I am pretty sure my Cooler is attached properly as I cannot tighten the screws any tighter than I have. I use a decent spot of thermal paste.

My room gets pretty hot in the summer (around 30 - 35 degrees Celsius) and I have to lower my clock speed by so much (around to 1000 - 2000MHz) and that effects my game quite a bit. I was wondering how I could fix this issue and if water cooling would help.

 

[CelicaGT]

Looking at that Cooler, I don't feel it's adequate for the 5800X. I'd suggest something a little larger, something that's rated for at least the 5800X's 105W TDP or greater, considering your ambient temps. You could consider an AIO if you wish, those aren't my forte as I prefer the simplicity of air cooling so I'd invite others with experience in that field to add their expertise to the conversation.

 

[drivinfast247]

That cooler definitely isn't sufficient for that CPU.

A few things to check before:

Is the CPU fan working?

What case and how many fans?

Are you sure the plastic is removed from the bottom of the cooler?

 

[beyondlogic]

Hi there, I have a Ryzen 7 5800X and I use a Cooler Master H412R CPU Cooler. Whenever I start up my PC, I always have to open Ryzen Master to set my cpu at a lower clock speed so it doesn't overheat. When I am playing games such as Elden Ring, my CPU can get to 90 degrees (C) and overheat. I am pretty sure my Cooler is attached properly as I cannot tighten the screws any tighter than I have. I use a decent spot of thermal paste.

My room gets pretty hot in the summer (around 30 - 35 degrees Celsius) and I have to lower my clock speed by so much (around to 1000 - 2000MHz) and that effects my game quite a bit. I was wondering how I could fix this issue and if water cooling would help.

cooler is far to small to dissipate the heat however before i even suggest a replacement cooler what is your current case and fan set up picture would be great

 

[jimij1220]

cooler is far to small to dissipate the heat however before i even suggest a replacement cooler what is your current case and fan set up picture would be great

My Case is the Deepcool Matrexx 50 E-ATX Case

 

[beyondlogic]

My Case is the Deepcool Matrexx 50 E-ATX Case

that case is rather restrictive but theres 2 options

replace current fans with better fans e.g 140mm for front and top of case for a total of 5.

or just add 2 fans 140mm fans to be exact as exhaust. also if you plan to get rgb ones they have to match the same voltage as your rgb hub so check the current fans.

fan blades facing to sky. this should push most of the hot air out of the case.

what is your current motherboard ?.

 

[ilukey77]

for the 5800x3d personally use a noctua u12a or something dual tower thermalright phantom spirit 120 evo or 280 to 360mm AIO ..
so i would suggest something very close for the 5800x..
if you are pushing 30c to 35c in summer 100% go a bigger cooler even if it seems like overkill !!

 

[CelicaGT]

that case is rather restrictive but theres 2 options

replace current fans with better fans e.g 140mm for front and top of case for a total of 5.

or just add 2 fans 140mm fans to be exact as exhaust. also if you plan to get rgb ones they have to match the same voltage as your rgb hub so check the current fans.

fan blades facing to sky. this should push most of the hot air out of the case.

what is your current motherboard ?.

The OP has a 105W TDP cpu, the cooler they list is rated for a MAX 100W TDP https://www.coolermaster.com/catalog/pages/cooling/tdp-and-socket-compatibility/ . While case airflow can be a contributing cause to the overheats they DO need a better cooler. No sense chasing zebras.

 

[ilukey77]

that case is rather restrictive but theres 2 options

replace current fans with better fans e.g 140mm for front and top of case for a total of 5.

or just add 2 fans 140mm fans to be exact as exhaust. also if you plan to get rgb ones they have to match the same voltage as your rgb hub so check the current fans.

fan blades facing to sky. this should push most of the hot air out of the case.

what is your current motherboard ?.

The case may be restrictive but even if the OP is running a full mesh case with those temps in his room the case isnt really the issue its the cpu cooler that needs overkilling !!

I live in a hotter climate myself and ive used many cases over the years full mesh front mesh mesh top panel etc etc and its still going to get toasty in a 35c room !!

 

[jimij1220]

that case is rather restrictive but theres 2 options

replace current fans with better fans e.g 140mm for front and top of case for a total of 5.

or just add 2 fans 140mm fans to be exact as exhaust. also if you plan to get rgb ones they have to match the same voltage as your rgb hub so check the current fans.

fan blades facing to sky. this should push most of the hot air out of the case.

what is your current motherboard ?.

msi b550m pro-vdh wifi

 

[jimij1220]

The OP has a 105W TDP cpu, the cooler they list is rated for a MAX 100W TDP https://www.coolermaster.com/catalog/pages/cooling/tdp-and-socket-compatibility/ . While case airflow can be a contributing cause to the overheats they DO need a better cooler. No sense chasing zebras.

Do you have any recommendations for good coolers?

 

[ilukey77]

for AIO arctic freezer ii 280 or 360mm not the prettiest but for bang for buck best on the market ..
Air coolers noctua NH U12a not cheap but keeps my 7800x3d cool which love to to boost to 90c by design keeps it at 80c ( so on a 5800x would be great) thermalright phantom spirt 120 evo can be had on ali express for a great price ( i always use pay pal) another great cooler dual tower could be ram height issues if using tall ram !!

The 3 brands i swear by arctic , noctua ( both arctic and noctua ive used multiple coolers over the years and different builds ) and to a point thermalright ( very impressed with thermalrights performance and cheap price) ..

 

[CelicaGT]

Do you have any recommendations for good coolers?

I am using a Hyper 212 (also from Coolermaster) on a 5800X3D. Under normal circumstances I'd recommend one. HOWEVER...that 35C ambient is of concern, you will need something with more capacity and even so you may edge in on thermal throttling. I'm just gonna drop Tom's "Best" link here so you can look at some choices. You will need to consider the amount of space in your tower, both RAM and overall height so be prepared to measure your rig and look for the specs for each cooler.

https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/best-cpu-coolers,4181.html

 

[ilukey77]

I am using a Hyper 212 (also from Coolermaster) on a 5800X3D. Under normal circumstances I'd recommend one. HOWEVER...that 35C ambient is of concern, you will need something with more capacity and even so you may edge in on thermal throttling. I'm just gonna drop Tom's "Best" link here so you can look at some choices. You will need to consider the amount of space in your tower, both RAM and overall height so be prepared to measure your rig and look for the specs for each cooler.

https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/best-cpu-coolers,4181.html

if case permits slap a 360mm AIO job done super overkill i know but if it gets super hot then something else is wrong !!

 

[CelicaGT]

for AIO arctic freezer ii 280 or 360mm not the prettiest but for bang for buck best on the market ..
Air coolers noctua NH U12a not cheap but keeps my 7800x3d cool which love to to boost to 90c by design keeps it at 80c ( so on a 5800x would be great) thermalright phantom spirt 120 evo can be had on ali express for a great price ( i always use pay pal) another great cooler dual tower could be ram height issues if using tall ram !!

The 3 brands i swear by arctic , noctua ( both arctic and noctua ive used multiple coolers over the years and different builds ) and to a point thermalright ( very impressed with thermalrights performance and cheap price) ..

Some good recommendations. All three brands I also trust. I honestly feel this may be the only time I'd recommend liquid cooling on a 105W CPU. Those ambient temps justify it.

 

[ilukey77]

Some good recommendations. All three brands I also trust. I honestly feel this may be the only time I'd recommend liquid cooling on a 105W CPU. Those ambient temps justify it.

Personally i would overkill cooling a cpu everyday of the week ( with in reason so no 420mm aios on a 13100 cpu ) but anything 5800 and up nothing really wrong with a bit of overkill !!

save on issues later on ..
bit like people playing tight arse Tuesday on there just enough wattage PSU is asking for trouble !!

 

[CelicaGT]

Personally i would overkill cooling a cpu everyday of the week ( with in reason so no 420mm aios on a 13100 cpu ) but anything 5800 and up nothing really wrong with a bit of overkill !!

save on issues later on ..
bit like people playing tight arse Tuesday on there just enough wattage PSU is asking for trouble !!

For me, I'd say I agree. Many times now planned upgrades have been hampered by "just enough" especially in the PSU department. As for cooling, this Hyper 212 is from my 4790K that I had overclocked to within an inch of its life. My new build was a Ryzen 5 5600X and it was more than good enough. I got an AM4 kit from Amazon and off we went. When I got the 5800X3D I was concerned but lo and behold at full all core load it levels out at around 80C and keeps clocks. It's fine. I do plan to get something a little more chonky in the future because I'd like to get these mid load temps down.

 

[beyondlogic]

msi b550m pro-vdh wifi

dont see much issue with using a 6 heatpipe cooler on that board the vrm heatsink its too much of a pain in the rear as some boards.

Thermalright CPU Air Cooler Peerless Assassin​

IS what i would recomend with 2 140mm fans in the top ​

i would recommend a aio cooler as well 240 though it can be a bit tricky as not all aio radiators thickness are equal e.g arctic radiators are a bit thicker but better at dissipating heat because of it. if you go that route check the clearance from the motherboard how much room you have in the roof of case would be the most ideal spot for it. as heat rises.

Also mesh does make a difference though a small one. glass cases in a hot climate are excellent at keeping heat in which is not ideal for a pc case. glass is a excellent insulator.

in your situation also i wouldnt be using the mesh magnetic filter at top all its doing is keeping the hot air in by being even more restrictive.

 

[ilukey77]

For me, I'd say I agree. Many times now planned upgrades have been hampered by "just enough" especially in the PSU department. As for cooling, this Hyper 212 is from my 4790K that I had overclocked to within an inch of its life. My new build was a Ryzen 5 5600X and it was more than good enough. I got an AM4 kit from Amazon and off we went. When I got the 5800X3D I was concerned but lo and behold at full all core load it levels out at around 80C and keeps clocks. It's fine. I do plan to get something a little more chonky in the future because I'd like to get these mid load temps down.

ive tried a few diff coolers on my 7800x3d now accept a 420mm arctic was using it in a ceres 500 case with the 7600x while i waited for the 7800x3d to release so far ive used a Noctua NH u12a , deepcool ak500 digital
(push pull config ) Nzxt x63 280mm aio , thermalright phantom spirit 120 evo with 3 noctua fans (see sig) and im back to using the arctic freezer ii 360 in a Lian Li o11 vision ..

So far the 360mm arctic using push pull is performing the best ..
BUT
All the air coolers are that ive used and the 280mm NZXT are all around 3c to 5c higher In R23 allcore.

In cinebench R23 the 7800x3d allcore not go past 80c but if im honest any of them air coolers are only 3 to 5c higher in the same test so i can 100% say that any of them coolers will crush cooling last gen cpus !!
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