News Ryzen 7 7700X Slips Past Ryzen 9 7950X3D in Linux Gaming

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Microcenter has some crazy deals for $1050 you can get
AMD Ryzen 7 7700X, MSI B650-P Pro WiFi, G.Skill Flare X5 Series 32GB DDR5-6000 Kit, Computer Build Combo$689.96 SAVE $689.96 SAVE $189.97

$499.99

and
AMD Radeon RX 6950 XT Triple Fan 16GB GDDR6 PCIe 4.0 Graphics Card$809.99 SAVE $110.00

$699.99

$649 with the purchase of ANY CPU.


Also anyone using dlss set to 4k quality or performance the 1440p and 1080p data does affect 4090 owners as well.
 
It seems likely Linux will have some kind of update to better support these CPU sooner than later, just as they did with Alder Lake and better utilizing its E-cores.
 
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The real mystery here is the bad gaming performance of 7950x: gaming isn't power limited, so the likely reason it lags behind 7700x is bad scheduling spreading stuff across CCDs with high latency. But then why 7900x works fine?
 
"Phoronix's geometric mean of gaming benchmarks results ..."

Why would the author choose a geometric mean for this calculation? If the base values are total frames, the arithmetic mean is more appropriate; if the values are frame rates, a harmonic mean is the proper choice. A geometric mean is appropriate when you're comparing normalized values or ratios, which doesn't seem to be the case here.
 
This story also fails to mention that the story they are referring to reports that the 7##0X3D chips use less power while delivering similar results as their non-3D counterparts. Tom's Hardware could of done a better job of sumerizing the article, not just pulling one interesting tibit of information. The performance per watt is an interesting measurement, and makes reading the actual article worth it.
 
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aberkae said:
Microcenter has some crazy deals for $1050 you can get
AMD Ryzen 7 7700X, MSI B650-P Pro WiFi, G.Skill Flare X5 Series 32GB DDR5-6000 Kit, Computer Build Combo$689.96 SAVE $689.96 SAVE $189.97

$499.99

and
AMD Radeon RX 6950 XT Triple Fan 16GB GDDR6 PCIe 4.0 Graphics Card$809.99 SAVE $110.00

$699.99

$649 with the purchase of ANY CPU.


Also anyone using dlss set to 4k quality or performance the 1440p and 1080p data does affect 4090 owners as well.
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Math error, $1150 (= $500 + $650), not $1050.

Also, NEVER trust the steam survey, if you trusted it you would FOOLISHLY thing that AMD has 15% market share and NVidia 70%. Actually, AMD rules the console world and has a much higher market share v.s. NVidia but the steam survey always distorts this. Also on Linux I think many people are more security and privacy-focused and might shun steam in favor of just running games atop wine ...
 
either way, steam survey should be look at as only a window into what hardware is in a persons comp, of the friends i know that use steam, which is about 10, i think only 2 or 3 of them have ever been asked to do that survey, my self, been using it for 5-10 years and NEVER even seen it,

it may give an idea, but thats it, nothing definitive
 
Ogotai said:
of the friends i know that use steam, which is about 10, i think only 2 or 3 of them have ever been asked to do that survey, my self, been using it for 5-10 years and NEVER even seen it,

it may give an idea, but thats it, nothing definitive
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No, it's quite definitive. If you learn statistics, specifically Kolmogorov's Law , you'll learn why you don't need to sample a tiny fraction of millions of individuals in order to get extremely precise results about the entire population.
 
Endymio said:
No, it's quite definitive. If you learn statistics, specifically Kolmogorov's Law , you'll learn why you don't need to sample a tiny fraction of millions of individuals in order to get extremely precise results about the entire population.
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not really... still inconclusive and only a small faction of what the gaming market could be using. in the end doesnt paint a complete picture
 
Ogotai said:
not really... still inconclusive and only a small faction of what the gaming market could be using. in the end doesnt paint a complete picture
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To get a complete picture somebody would have to go door to door and check personally how many GPUs each and every household has and how often and how heavily they use them, for all the billions of people on this world...
There is no way to get a complete picture and steam is still the largest database and thus provides the most accurate picture we can possibly get.
 
Ogotai said:
not really... still inconclusive and only a small faction [sic] of what the gaming market could be using. in the end doesnt [sic] paint a complete picture
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The satisfying thing about mathematics is that it isn't subject to argument or debate. They're immutable truth -- and the mathematics of the survey statistics demonstrates conclusively and completely otherwise. You may not like the results, but you cannot debate them.
 
yea ok sure, any thing you say, i still dont trust or believe what the steam survey says, i know a few others who also question it as well, but what ever
 
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