That is still impressive . I have been with AMD for a long time. But I parked my AMD Ryzen for upgrades I traded my 1070 ti(he needs the nvec decoder) for an I7 pc with an rx 470. I do not play much games(Forza 5 and Path of exile mostly) and I do web development and IT support. I am actually impressed with the I7's performance. I got her easily to 3.5ghz(could go higher but my AIO is dodgy 😀) I really don't care about performance. It comes down to price. I am looking to get myself a laptop for my work as I am going traveling in 2 months for work. A laptop like this will be over kill. It's one of those that I ask the questions . Nice to have but do I need it?