News Ryzen 7 9700X and Ryzen 5 9600X gaming performance don't benefit from a higher TDP — 105W TDP mode tested in three modern games

[Admin]

The 105W TDP option for the Ryzen 7 9700X and Ryzen 5 9600X was tested in three games to see if the higher power setting would improve gaming performance.

Ryzen 7 9700X and Ryzen 5 9600X gaming performance don't benefit from a higher TDP — 105W TDP mode tested in three modern games : Read more

 

[Giroro]

In this context, I would read "Gaming Performance" as a singular collection of multiple data points. So "Gaming Performance doesn't benefit" makes more grammatical sense to me.

Then again, even official government sources will refer to a single dataset as plural, since that one set in made from multiple data points. They say things like "here are the data" and "the data indicate that". But that flows completely wrong. It's like saying "The beach are sandy" or "Traffic are getting congested".

 

[Jagar123]

Yeah, this was expected. I hope Toms does their own benchmarks to prove this out as well.

 

[FunSurfer]

What is the GPU here? because Tom's benchmark shows 204-205 fps for 9700x in Wukong with RTX 4090 @1080 high, this benchmark shows only 195 fps on low - should be much higher fps with 4090.

 

[jeremyj_83]

This isn't a surprise. In Techpowerups review of the 9700X they saw it using an average of 71W during their gaming benchmarks. The 7700X with its 105W TDP was also in the review and it used 70W. The higher TDP will only help in instances that are heavily threaded. Gaming is not an instance that is heavily threaded.

 

[russell_john]

None of this is really surprising if you take a close look at what was changed/upgraded in Zen 5 over Zen 4. Pretty much everything enhanced is for productivity and/or efficiency in productivity and really nothing there for gaming other than a slight increase in clocks and IPC. The 9800X3D won't change that dynamic much. Sure you will get gains in gaming because of the extra cache but the difference between the 7800X3D and the 9800X3D with be about the same as the difference between the 7700X and the 9700X

Gamers should just skip this generation until the prices come down to what the 7000 series currently are at.

 

[TheHerald]

Are these results CPU bound though? If GPU is the bottleneck you ain't going to see any differences.

 

[Ryrynz]

None of this is really surprising if you take a close look at what was changed/upgraded in Zen 5 over Zen 4. Pretty much everything enhanced is for productivity and/or efficiency in productivity and really nothing there for gaming other than a slight increase in clocks and IPC. The 9800X3D won't change that dynamic much. Sure you will get gains in gaming because of the extra cache but the difference between the 7800X3D and the 9800X3D with be about the same as the difference between the 7700X and the 9700X

Gamers should just skip this generation until the prices come down to what the 7000 series currently are at.

You writing off the 9800X3D given it's advertised improvements? I know it's an expensive chip but a lot of gamers only want the X3D. I'm sure a lot of people will be buying this, even upgrading from the 7800X3D

 

[Dntknwitall]

This does not make any sense. Any other CPU will get an increase in frames when overlooked. This is essentially an overclock so it should have some kind of increase in performance. For whatever reason these chips have changed the landscape and people are not able to benchmark them properly. There will be someone that will get it right and there will be a gain in performance at the higher wattage benchmarks. They should be getting a performance uplift not a hit on performance.

 

[jeremyj_83]

This does not make any sense. Any other CPU will get an increase in frames when overlooked. This is essentially an overclock so it should have some kind of increase in performance. For whatever reason these chips have changed the landscape and people are not able to benchmark them properly. There will be someone that will get it right and there will be a gain in performance at the higher wattage benchmarks. They should be getting a performance uplift not a hit on performance.

Gaming doesn't use much power. The 7700X with a 105W TDP (142W PPT) was only drawing 70W during gaming. Not surprisingly the 9700X with a 65W TDP (88W PPT) was only drawing 71 during gaming. Basically gaming isn't able to use the higher TDP headroom because it doesn't stress enough cores. Applications that can run on more cores will show greater performance with the higher TDP.