Question ryzen 9 7950x and rtx 4060ti bottleneck

[Andysenn]

I am planning a new pc build consisting of a ryzen 9 7950x and a 4060 ti, would this be too much bottleneck for gaming?

 

[CountMike]

I am planning a new pc build consisting of a ryzen 9 7950x and a 4060 ti, would this be too much bottleneck for gaming?

Not really a bottleneck but GPU may not give you enough performance for high resolution settings, frequency and detail in some games, no matter which CPU. 1008p @60-75Hz should be fantastic on account of CPU.

 

[coozie7]

What monitor will you be using and will you upgrade it in the near future?
That little 4060 ( you DID type that correctly, right? ) will just about do at 1080 ( HD ) rez but, even with DLSS it has a short future, for gaming you need to really aim higher.
For pure gaming the 7950X is a terrible choice the much cheaper 7800X3D or even 5800X3D offer very similar performance in games for much less cash.

 

[Phaaze88]

Yeah... for just games, I'm lost on the 7950X choice - the X3D version wouldn't be much better. Just get the 7800X3D.
The Windows scheduler updates for the dual CCX cpus aren't perfect, so stick to the single CCX chips for just games.

 

[Andysenn]

Yeah... for just games, I'm lost on the 7950X choice - the X3D version wouldn't be much better. Just get the 7800X3D.
The Windows scheduler updates for the dual CCX cpus aren't perfect, so stick to the single CCX chips for just games.

i’m planning on playing some CPU heavy games tho

 

[artk2219]

i’m planning on playing some CPU heavy games tho

None of them are CPU heavy enough to require a Ryzen 9 7950x, a 7800X3d will be more than fine, its the fastest gaming chip around currently. Ive attached the 14th gen review so you can see how everything stacks up. If you could go for a faster GPU like an RTX 4070, RTX 3080, or RX 7800XT, RX 6800XT, RX 6900 XT then that would make a difference.

Intel Core i9-14900K, i7-14700K and i5-14600K Review: Ryzen X3D Stays On Top

Mid-range gaming has a new champion.

www.tomshardware.com

 

[ilukey77]

could balance it out a bit more for the money like a 7800x3d and a 7900xt or the 7800xt ..

or the 7700 non x and a 7800xt /7900xt !!

 

[Phaaze88]

i’m planning on playing some CPU heavy games tho

What even is a cpu heavy game, when they're all driven by a single core that handles all commands from the game engine - even commands to other cpu cores.
No game by itself is heavy enough to make use of all those threads. Even if you have your browser open on the side, that's extra ram use, not cores.
Plus, there's still the additional latency incurred from the dual CCX cpus that hasn't been ironed out completely in operating system drivers.

I still suggest to stick with the single CCX cpus if the purpose is focused on games.

 

[Order 66]

What even is a cpu heavy game, when they're all driven by a single core that handles all commands from the game engine - even commands to other cpu cores.
No game by itself is heavy enough to make use of all those threads. Even if you have your browser open on the side, that's extra ram use, not cores.
Plus, there's still the additional latency incurred from the dual CCX cpus that hasn't been ironed out completely in operating system drivers.

I still suggest to stick with the single CCX cpus if the purpose is focused on games.

I would say games that try to emulate realistic physics like Beamng or Teardown. But neither of those games require that much CPU power (Maybe modded teardown) I have seen that game lag on even high end systems.

 

[Andysenn]

None of them are CPU heavy enough to require a Ryzen 9 7950x, a 7800X3d will be more than fine, its the fastest gaming chip around currently. Ive attached the 14th gen review so you can see how everything stacks up. If you could go for a faster GPU like an RTX 4070, RTX 3080, or RX 7800XT, RX 6800XT, RX 6900 XT then that would make a difference.

Intel Core i9-14900K, i7-14700K and i5-14600K Review: Ryzen X3D Stays On Top

Mid-range gaming has a new champion.

www.tomshardware.com

would a 4070 pair well with a ryzen 7 7800x?

 

[Order 66]

would a 4070 pair well with a ryzen 7 7800x?

Yes, however, I would go for the 7800xt as (if you don't mind white) it is on sale for $299 or if you don't want white, then you can get one for about $20 cheaper than the cheapest 4070. The 7800xt's 16GB of VRAM will keep you happily gaming at decent settings for far longer than the 4070's 12GB. Not to mention the 7800xt will outperform the 4070 in games except games that utilize ray tracing.

 

[Andysenn]

Yes, however, I would go for the 7800xt as (if you don't mind white) it is on sale for $299 or if you don't want white, then you can get one for about $20 cheaper than the cheapest 4070. The 7800xt's 16GB of VRAM will keep you happily gaming at decent settings for far longer than the 4070's 12GB. Not to mention the 7800xt will outperform the 4070 in games except games that utilize ray tracing.

what is the max the ryzen 7 7800x3d will clock at without OC

 

[artk2219]

what is the max the ryzen 7 7800x3d will clock at without OC

5Ghz max turbo

AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D - 100-000000910 / 100-100000910WOF

AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D desktop APU: detailed specifications, side by side comparison, FAQ and more from CPU-World

www.cpu-world.com

 

[Phaaze88]

I would say games that try to emulate realistic physics like Beamng or Teardown. But neither of those games require that much CPU power (Maybe modded teardown) I have seen that game lag on even high end systems.

Do you know how much cpu resources are being used? Of course, I don't mean the misleading whole cpu usage.

 

[Order 66]

Do you know how much cpu resources are being used? Of course, I don't mean the misleading whole cpu usage.

I don't becuase I generally don't have performance monitoring software open while I game so that I can focus fully on the game and not on FPS (unless the game's performance is really bad). From the game's steam page the minimum is an unspecified quad core CPU and the recommended is another unspecified i7 CPU (with more than 4 cores I would guess). I also have never personally played teardown, since up until recently I haven't had a PC even remotely capable of running it.

 

[ilukey77]

my system 7800x3d /7900xtx red devil after just checking a few minutes ago with cyber punk 2077 4k RT ultra no upscaling 60 fps just walking around nightcity .. about 30 to 40% cpu usage 100% gpu ..

cpu usage jumps a bit at 1440p for obvious reasons as does fps

Borderlands 4k ultra 120 130fps basically the same usage for 20 % to 30 % cpu and 100% gpu

beam drive NG max everything 110 fps 18% cpu usage 100% gpu

 

[ohio_buckeye]

I’d definitely drop the 7950x and maybe go for the 8 core 7700, 7700x or one of the 7800 parts suggested and a better gpu than a 4060. I think you’ll be much happier.

 

[Phaaze88]

I don't becuase I generally don't have performance monitoring software open while I game so that I can focus fully on the game and not on FPS (unless the game's performance is really bad). From the game's steam page the minimum is an unspecified quad core CPU and the recommended is another unspecified i7 CPU (with more than 4 cores I would guess). I also have never personally played teardown, since up until recently I haven't had a PC even remotely capable of running it.

I see.
Those darn game requirements though. Very unreliable.
Sometimes, the truth simply falls to game optimization. There's so many different combos of hardware and installed software out there, and only so many can be accounted for. That's why some experience a bug-ridden nightmare, some see a few bugs, and some see none, all from the same darn game.

 

[ilukey77]

I see.
Those darn game requirements though. Very unreliable.
Sometimes, the truth simply falls to game optimization. There's so many different combos of hardware and installed software out there, and only so many can be accounted for. That's why some experience a bug-ridden nightmare, some see a few bugs, and some see none, all from the same darn game.

thats why you try to build a balanced system with atleast 16gb of vram ..

Ill say this a million times the best balanced / some what buget ish system is a ( in my opinion )

7700 non x 280mm arctic freezer ii aio 6800xt/7800xt 850w psu a WD sn 850x 2tb m.2

b650e even if you pay the extra for the better VRM's and pcie gen 5 x16

gskill z5 cl 30 6000 ram 32gb