Ryzen or stick with Coffe Lake

[kimacosta168]

I currently own the i3 8100 chip. It’s a great cpu but I now have enough to upgrade to another cpu. The only question i have thought is what cpu do I upgrade to. I have a Z370 Motherboard and a budget of $375 for both cooler and cpu. I was thinking the i5 8600k with the h5 cooler as I already have the motherboard to support the overclocking, but ryzen seems like a great contender. I can sell the i3 and the Z370 off if I were to get ryzen increasing my budget significantly. I only want to game but I want to future proof my pc as much as possible. Thank you.

 

[superninja12]

kima, have you looked at the benchmarks?

I would get the i5.

 

[mdd1963]

Who talked you into the 8100 to start with?

8400 is quite adequate, 8600K is better, 8700K is best, let your wallet be your guide! (The latter two choices need coolers, of course.....)

 

[kimacosta168]

Who talked you into the 8100 to start with?

8400 is quite adequate, 8600K is better, 8700K is best, let your wallet be your guide! (The latter two choices need coolers, of course.....)

Got it for $50 from a close friend. What cooler would you recommend for an i5-8600k. Budget is $375? Or should I buy the 8700k and push my budget for a better air cooler?

 

[mdd1963]

$50 would be a nice price! (assemble a FreeNAS rig around it later!)

If your case is wide enough to accommodate a fairly large traditional heatsink, there are few as reputable as Noctua's NH-D15, even 2 years after it's release....(I believe it requires a case with 168 mm mounting height clearance)

 

[dozet3]

I prefer amd. but intel is better for gaming currently. keeping the z370 and getting an i5 8600k w/better cooler would probably be smartest. the NH-D15 is better than many cheap AIO coolers btw.

edit: gaming wise, the i7-8700k isnt much better in gaming than the i5-8600k. also at stock, the i7 runs hot.

 

[madmatt30]

with that budget (even owning a z series board) Id buy an i7 8700 & be done.

Youre already upgrading once from a quad,you'll likely decide to do it again 2 years down the line.

The ipc & native all core boost speeds of the coffee lake chips to me make it absolutely non-essential oa a performance level to even look at a k series chip or overclocking,unless its for hobbyist or bragging rights.

 

[mdd1963]

The all-core turbo of MCE enabled, running all six cores at max turbo, a feature of the K chips, is nothing to sneeze at on supporting mainboards either (cooling permitting, of course)

It should be quite a while before 6 cores (and preferably 12 threads, if budget- feasible, and desirable for streaming)at 4.7 GHz or so becomes 'marginal' for gaming....

8600K does do VERY well in gaming alone....throw in streaming, I'd fight hard for the 8700K. (I don't stream, but only mention it as some find it important)

 

[mdd1963]

I gladly offer you $40 on your well-used 8100! (I'll have to order a darn B360 board to assemble a FreeNAS rig I don't really need anyway!)

 

[madmatt30]

The all-core turbo of MCE enabled, running all six cores at max turbo, a feature of the K chips, is nothing to sneeze at on supporting mainboards either (cooling permitting, of course)

It should be quite a while before 6 cores (and preferably 12 threads, if budget- feasible, and desirable for streaming)at 4.7 GHz or so becomes 'marginal' for gaming....

8600K does do VERY well in gaming alone....throw in streaming, I'd fight hard for the 8700K. (I don't stream, but only mention it as some find it important)

Not just k chips,the 8700 non k runs 4.3ghz all core boost, some gigabyte boards have seen it running 4.6ghz with mce enabled.

That is mentally fast for a locked 6c/12t cpu!!

 

[kimacosta168]

Thanks for answering guys. I’m deciding on the 8700 non k. Wasn’t even something I thought of until you guys brought it up. Thanks.

 

[kimacosta168]

with that budget (even owning a z series board) Id buy an i7 8700 & be done.

Youre already upgrading once from a quad,you'll likely decide to do it again 2 years down the line.

The ipc & native all core boost speeds of the coffee lake chips to me make it absolutely non-essential oa a performance level to even look at a k series chip or overclocking,unless its for hobbyist or bragging rights.

Do I need to enable something in my bios for it to boost or is it out of the box boosted. I own the Z370 Asus Prime A.

 

[superninja12]

works out of the box