News Ryzen Threadripper 7000 Listings Hint at AMD's Return to HEDT

[Admin]

A new listing confirms that Ryzen Threadripper 7000 will be coming in HEDT and Pro lineups, marking AMD's return to the HEDT market since the Threadripper 3000 era.

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[Deleted member 2731765]

Zen 4 Threadripper should be a quadruple CCD version of AMD's Ryzen 7000 desktop CPUs, with massive improvements to core counts, memory channels, PCIe lanes, and I/O

You can add the socket type as well. LGA-6096 (SP5) for WS, and LGA-4096 (SP6) or most likely LGA4844 socket for HEDT.

So based on the document, we have 2 families. Ryzen Threadripper PRO 7900 CPUs as listed under the "79x5WX" family for workstation PCs, and the Ryzen Threadripper 7900 CPUs as the "79x0X" family for HEDT PCs.

Let's now compare and see how they stack up. HEDT segment lineup:

• AMD HEDT: Threadripper 7000 (5nm Zen 4) / 4-Channel DDR5 / 64 PCIe Gen 5 / 4844 SP6 Socket
• Intel HEDT: Xeon W-2400 (10nm Golden Cove / 4-Channel DDR5 / 64 PCIe Gen 5 / LGA 4677 Socket

For the workstation segment, we have:

• AMD WS: Threadripper 7000 (5nm Zen 4) / 8-Channel DDR5 / 128 PCIe Gen 5 / 6096 SP5 Socket (Lacks OC capabilities for both CPU & memory).
• Intel WS: Xeon W-3400 (10nm Golden Cove / 8-Channel DDR5 / 112 PCIe Gen 5 / LGA 4677 Socket

 

[MetalScythe]

Quadruple CCD (meaning four)… with massive improvements to core count?

Those two statements are diametrically opposing. Their core-count-per-CCD is still 8 cores for vanilla Zen 4 (apparently 16 for density-optimized Zen 4c). 8x4=32. Zen 3 TR maxed at 64 cores at 8 CCDs, let alone Zen 4, which maxes at 96 cores (8x12=96).

 

[MetalScythe]

You can add the socket type as well. LGA-6096 (SP5) for WS, and LGA-4096 (SP6) or most likely LGA4844 socket for HEDT.

So based on the document, we have 2 families. Ryzen Threadripper PRO 7900 CPUs as listed under the "79x5WX" family for workstation PCs, and the Ryzen Threadripper 7900 CPUs as the "79x0X" family for HEDT PCs.

Let's now compare and see how they stack up. HEDT segment lineup:

• AMD HEDT: Threadripper 7000 (5nm Zen 4) / 4-Channel DDR5 / 64 PCIe Gen 5 / 4844 SP6 Socket
• Intel HEDT: Xeon W-2400 (10nm Golden Cove / 4-Channel DDR5 / 64 PCIe Gen 5 / LGA 4677 Socket

For the workstation segment, we have:

• AMD WS: Threadripper 7000 (5nm Zen 4) / 8-Channel DDR5 / 128 PCIe Gen 5 / 6096 SP5 Socket (Lacks OC capabilities for both CPU & memory).
• Intel WS: Xeon W-3400 (10nm Golden Cove / 8-Channel DDR5 / 112 PCIe Gen 5 / LGA 4677 Socket

Yeah, I’m thinking consumer Threadripper 79xx is going to use the Siena socket.

 

[Steve Nord_]

High End DeskTop CPU ugh. Jes' need the Engineering workstations to back up on an insulated heat pump wall, with I guess low grade heat applications (400°C ?) on the other side. There's your 4x 3 kW heat radiators. Maybe those vanadium batteries for backup power and a chemical loop...

Lucky whoever get to use rooftop solar or wind, pedaling for 16 kW (plus cooling yourself and that, another 4 kW) is 5x superhuman. Maybe TSMC will make claims to doing that though?

 

[thestryker]

HEDT has been dead since Threadripper 3000 launched. The huge pricing delta from then still exists and the entry CPUs are flat out slower than the premium desktop counterparts. When HEDT first arrived until TR 3000 the price premium between highest desktop and lowest HEDT was 20-30%. The performance was close to the same (or better in some generations) in lightly threaded and better in multithreaded.

Example using SPR (in US):
w5-2455x (lowest OC CPU), motherboard and RAM are about $2400
13900k/13900ks/7950x/7950x3d, motherboard (trying to keep similar quality as WS) and RAM are about $1200

The Xeon will not beat either of those desktop processors in performance so it's only offering the platform itself. Zen 4 Threadripper won't be any cheaper than the prices Intel is charging. These are just workstation chips and both companies have two tiers (2000/3000 and TR/TR Pro) of them.