Question Ryzen vs Intel honest opinion pls

[Jonaking]

Hi I’m building a pc and I’m considering Ryzen or intel

-ryzen7 3700x

-i7 9700k

Now I know there are many vids online but if anyone could tell me their opinion on which I should get that would be Great

An answer would be greatly appreciated

 

[NightHawkRMX]

What are you planning to do on this PC?

What's your monitor and refresh?

 

[Jonaking]

Im planning to use this Pc for gaming and schoolwork so a bit of both I’m looking to buy a 144hz lg Monitor but right now I have a 60hz Acer Monitor

 

[TJ Hooker]

In addition to monitor, what GPU are you planning to get?

 

[NightHawkRMX]

You will be happy with either.

What GPU.

 

[InvalidError]

Intel leads most benchmarks for peak gaming FPS, which is what you would need for 144Hz. AMD leads in most other stuff.

As long as your new monitor has adaptive sync, it shouldn't matter much either way.

 

[Wolfshadw]

Either one will give exceptional performance. I say go with whichever platform is cheaper.

-Wolf sends

 

[NightHawkRMX]

The I7 is a better CPU for gaming and a little more stable, I don't think many people would argue that.

However, Ryzen does have benefits. Sometimes cost, sometimes multithreaded performance in the case of the 3700x.

 

[drivinfast247]

The I7 is a better CPU for gaming and a little more stable, I don't think many people would argue that.

However, Ryzen does have benefits. Sometimes cost, sometimes multithreaded performance in the case of the 3700x.

Explain.

 

[TJ Hooker]

Explain.

Could be referring to the platform FW. I.e. AMD seems to still be very actively tweaking their microcode, affecting boost behaviour, memory support, etc. Changes to Intel BIOSs are typically pretty minor (except until they find the next vulnerability that they have to patch with a microcode update ).

 

[NightHawkRMX]

Not saying there is anything wrong with Ryzen (heck, my gaming pc is AMD Ryzen powered) but 3rd generation has had some issues.

AMD is known for its shaky launches. While they almost always get everything sorted out, it takes time and there are always tons of updates for things like microcode and chipset drivers until then, at least with Ryzen.

I mean currently, people are seeing odd behavior related to boost clocks and voltages. Nothing dangerous at all, but a little shaky.

 

[Phaaze88]

Not saying there is anything wrong with Ryzen (heck, my gaming pc is AMD Ryzen powered) but 3rd generation has had some issues.

AMD is known for its shaky launches. While they almost always get everything sorted out, it takes time and there are always tons of updates for things like microcode and chipset drivers until then, at least with Ryzen.

I mean currently, people are seeing odd behavior related to boost clocks and voltages. Nothing dangerous at all, but a little shaky.

^This.
Although AMD is the value leader right now, you're kinda signing up to be a beta tester for their products at the moment. Both Intel(yeah, really) and Nvidia are the more stable platforms right now.
It'll take some time to get all the bugs worked out, until then, some people are just at the mercy of those updates.

Early adopter privilege?

 

[InvalidError]

Not saying there is anything wrong with Ryzen (heck, my gaming pc is AMD Ryzen powered) but 3rd generation has had some issues.

Every generation has had some issues, first and third gen being the worst offenders for quirks people shouldn't have to to deal with on volume production parts. First gen had horrible memory compatibility at launch, third gen has multiple weird bugs (some reviewers are sticking to 1003AB due ABB/ABBA being worse in their opinion) along with very similar unclear messaging about what CPUs will be compatible with which boards as the 2nd-gen.

On my i5-3470, I was still running the original BIOS until a few weeks ago when I ran out of things to update in an attempt to fix issues with Windows sound. At least two of the update notes mentioned improved system stability, which I found hilarious given that my system already ran for months between reboots for updates. That's the stability I expect out of my PCs, I'd have a hard time tolerating any less.

 

[j3ster]

we are at a point where going either intel or amd doesnt really matter anymore as both choices would provide you with a good experience.

the 9700k would edge out the 3700x in some games, but what you may want to think about is this.

at 1080p 144hz the 9700k would edge out the 3700x using the same GPU for instance it wont be much but you might want to go intel at this stage. GTX 1660ti or RX 5700 would be good at this resolution.


at 1440p both of them would perform neck and neck since this resolution is more reliant on the GPU. but you could go for 2nd gen ryzen (2600/2600x/2700x) which is still great btw and they are really cheap atm, get your self a RTX 2080 super and play on 1440p 120hz with maxed out settings.

 

[Truckerlenny]

personally i just built a new 9700k build a couple months back just as the 3000 series was releasing and i am glad i did with all the reports of issues with amd etc all i had to do was plug and play

 

[Irisena]

both are good, so just do a price comparison on your local market. ryzen is a good performer, but people sometimes says that it have some funny issues. So yeah, pick your poison I guess.

 

[psi]

I have a high-end i7 CPU and it performs very well, but I think it's a little bit overkill for gaming. Intel have also dropped Windows 8.1 support. I never used Ryzen but since AMD makes cheaper CPUs it looks like a good choice (my intel and in general, are expensive, aww). I think all in all it may be investment for future games, so worth planning ahead.
GPU power is very important for this use.

 

[Jonaking]

Right now I have a 1050ti but in future think of 2070/ti and what is adaptive sync?

 

[NightHawkRMX]

Adaptive sync or a-sync. Think of it as freesync/gsync

With a 1050ti or even 2070 you will not notice a lot of difference between ryzen and 9700k.

Go for the cheaper one.

 

[dorsai]

Right now I have a 1050ti but in future think of 2070/ti and what is adaptive sync?

You won't notice any difference in gaming running a 1050ti or even a 2070...it takes a high end Intel cpu like a 9900k running a 2080ti to show any meaningful gains over Ryzen 3700x...on mid-level gpu's the performance difference is not noticeable outside benchmark software. In almost every use besides gaming the Ryzen 3700x cpu will walk away from a 9700k.

Adaptive sync is software that works to eliminate screen tearing in games when the gpu exceeds the monitor refresh rate.

 

[Jonaking]

Alright thanks guys for that interesting discussion and thank you for sharing your knowledge with me
I have one last question about the monitor with ryzen would i have to get amd sync or would free sync
work once i buy one

 

[Finstar]

Alright thanks guys for that interesting discussion and thank you for sharing your knowledge with me
I have one last question about the monitor with ryzen would i have to get amd sync or would free sync
work once i buy one

Your cpu has no effect to which you can or should buy.
Freesync works on both AMD and Nvidia GPUs while G-sync only works on Nvidia gpus.

 

[geofelt]

Either of those processors will drive any graphics card you want for good gaming.
9700K wins by a nit in the reviews I have seen.
The new product motherboard issues for ryzen might also be a factor for you.

As to adaptive sync, here is a good article:
https://www.anandtech.com/show/10325/the-nvidia-geforce-gtx-1080-and-1070-founders-edition-review/13

 

[Jonaking]

Im planning to use the gigabyte X570 Aorus elite which i was told has the right bios thx guys

 

[InvalidError]

Im planning to use the gigabyte X570 Aorus elite which i was told has the right bios

Getting a board based on a chipset that launched with new CPUs is the easiest way to make sure it comes with what should be a usable BIOS preloaded so long as you aren't unfortunate enough to get a no-go combo.