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On Mon, 14 Mar 2005, Jesse Meyer wrote:
> Jym <moyen@loria.fr> wrote:
> Luck plays a factor, at least in 3-card monte, which is how I tend to
> build my fortune.
Yes. In 99, I'm not so sure. After a few tries (see below), i manage to
win something like 3/4 or 2/3 or 99 games I've played, thus having a
positive gain if I had played correctly.
> > And that seems far less dangerous than pudding farming since
> > 1/ gypsy will not attack you, so you can do it right from XL 1
> > 2/ as you're still XL 1, monsters attacking you will be smalls.
> > 3/ as you can always wish for a few more scrolls of genocide (blessed or
> > not), monsters won't even be able to reach you...
>
> Assuming you find a gypsy on a low dlvl (nearest likely one is Grund's
> lair, IIRC). I don't recall seeing a randomly generated gypsy until
> gehennom, which makes me think that they are pretty high level.
> Therefore, the only way to get a gypsy at low level would be reverse
> genocide, figurine, etc. (And you don't want a hostile gypsy -- they
> are nasty buggers.)
Yesterday night, the first room of the dungeon held a fountain. quaff from
it, water demon, wish.
As I wanted to try this gypsies farming thing, I asked for 3 cursed
scrolls of genocide (only get one). Reverse genocide gypsy. They are
peacfull when sumoned.
Well, after that I did silly thing with the way I start betting and loose
repetidly my money before building sufficient credit :-( I went to the
mines for more money and get killed by a unicorn while coming up to my
gypsy camp.
Maybe I should have go to explore mode (or even savescum) just to check
if this really works (trying in wizard mode is not really an option as
this works mainly with wishes...)
> > I guess you can even combine gypsies farming and protection racket without
> > much trouble (genociding every inhabitant of the mines before going to the
> > priest).
>
> The gypsy that tends to hang around Grund's lair is abusable.
> Otherwise, slash'em gypsies are too deep to be easily abused. (The last
> gypsy or two I saw in my last game resulted in 'throw-away' wishes --
> the castle wand gave me enough wishes.)
With what I did yesterday, the first gypsy summoning was done while I was
still at XL1 and DL1.
If gypsy farming is done while staying at XL1 (which should not be a
problem with the huge amount of armor you may wish for and the low level
of random monsters (killables by your pet)), there should be no problem
after that to go for protection racket (a pet solar will be more than
enough to clean the mines for you, and you may save a few scrolls for
nurses dancing for HPs to avoid any trouble, plus already have an
ascendable AC when you enter the mines).
Darn, I should really have done something with that game yesterday :-((
Hypocoristiquement,
Jym.
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