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Hi everyone.

I may have asked this already, but here it goes again. I'm trying to get
Savant and Sorcerer (or vice versa), but Amazon still claims taht the book
has noot been released yet. Which is of course nonsense. So, is there any
other place where I can get the book?

 

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"pikathulhu" <pikapika@thulhu.net> wrote in message news:<ceih38$boo$1@ls219.htnet.hr>...
> Hi everyone.
>
> I may have asked this already, but here it goes again. I'm trying to get
> Savant and Sorcerer (or vice versa), but Amazon still claims taht the book
> has noot been released yet. Which is of course nonsense. So, is there any
> other place where I can get the book?

Funny, I ran into the same problem when trying to order the book from
my store; the ISBN wasn't recognized. And I didn't find it in any of
my usual FLGS. Anyway, after combing some stores in my area I didn't
even know exist, I finally lucked out and found ONE copy.

And it is SWEET.

But, uh...good luck in finding one yourself!^^

Dex,
wondering if the print run was really low...

 

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Hand-of-Omega wrote:

> And it is SWEET.

Enjoying that cover, eh?
--
Stephenls
Geek
"I'm as impure as the driven yellow snow." -Spike

 

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"pikathulhu" <pikapika@thulhu.net> wrote in message news:<ceih38$boo$1@ls219.htnet.hr>...
> Hi everyone.
>
> I may have asked this already, but here it goes again. I'm trying to get
> Savant and Sorcerer (or vice versa), but Amazon still claims taht the book
> has noot been released yet. Which is of course nonsense. So, is there any
> other place where I can get the book?

White Wolf's main site. Unless there's a reason you can't use
White-Wolf.com, to which I am useless and can only say "Maybe order it
from Borders?"

I gave up on Amazon for White Wolf books a while back. It boned me,
and a few other people I know, saying "Ascension has not been
released" even though it had been out for well over a month.

 

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"Hand-of-Omega" <smilinglord@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:27420f11.0408010949.675571d3@posting.google.com...
> "pikathulhu" <pikapika@thulhu.net> wrote in message
news:<ceih38$boo$1@ls219.htnet.hr>...
> > Hi everyone.
> >
> > I may have asked this already, but here it goes again. I'm trying to get
> > Savant and Sorcerer (or vice versa), but Amazon still claims taht the
book
> > has noot been released yet. Which is of course nonsense. So, is there
any
> > other place where I can get the book?
>
> Funny, I ran into the same problem when trying to order the book from
> my store; the ISBN wasn't recognized. And I didn't find it in any of
> my usual FLGS. Anyway, after combing some stores in my area I didn't
> even know exist, I finally lucked out and found ONE copy.

Maybe you might want to e-mail Conrad at WW about that? Sounds like a
distro issue to me.

CB

 

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In article <ceih38$boo$1@ls219.htnet.hr>, "pikathulhu"
<pikapika@thulhu.net> wrote:

> So, is there any other place where I can get the book?

Stiggybaby.com, an online seller that gets good press from its customers
-- I haven't tried them myself, though -- lists it in stock.

http://tinyurl.com/3sdhj

--
Tyler

u d e t o d r y s t a n o i d f t

Bac>|wards

 

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maltlick@yahoo.com (Zane Graves) wrote in message news:<3a33e414.0408022216.72b0f2f5@posting.google.com>...
> smilinglord@hotmail.com (Hand-of-Omega) wrote in message news:<27420f11.0408021852.73e700ac@posting.google.com>...
> > Stephenls <stephenls@shaw.ca> wrote in message news:<2n4qcsFt3c6aU2@uni-berlin.de>...
> > > Hand-of-Omega wrote:
> > >
> > > > And it is SWEET.
> > >
> > > Enjoying that cover, eh?
> >
> > Well, it was my wallpaper for awhile...^^
> >
I might also have said: "Inside AND out!" or "Well, I sure prefer
looking at her to Arianna!"^^
> There were goods and bads about S&S. I won't even count it being
> another Exalted title that's SS (at least this one is S&S). And, yes,
> that's where Starmetal always came from. At least, the fallen star
> bit. That the fallen star is the manifested Essence of a dead God?
> That might be new.

Not just "dead"; conspired against, unfairly railroaded into
execution, and murdered...Imagine the backlash against the Sidereals
should this ever get out...^^
>
> The art is ok, but not as inspired as it was in Bo3C, I thought.
>
It actually seems less anime-influenced, as an observation. Like I
said, I thought the Tarot-like iconography hella cool and appropriate
(reminiscient of The Ninth Gate, actually). And the Warstriders look
way cooler than the couple of pictures in the original...

> STRENGTHS:
>
> The Artifact creation system.
>
I like that less exotic ingredients are necessary. The pineal gland of
a master spy can be pretty hard to get ahold of...

> The revised spell list.
>
> The one line I randomly flipped to when I opened the book one day
> saying "You need 1,000 successes to do this."
>
> WEAKNESSES:
>
> The demon limits. Just felt kinda meh to me.
>
Didn't seem all that *great* to me, but I can see where they're going
with it. And it does help character and roleplaying opportunities. I'm
going to have to refresh myself with the Demon section of GoD, tho...

> As pointed out by Richard, there are lots of bits of "We did this to
> make Exalted HARDER!" and lots of unnecessary rules were added in
> places there didn't need to be any. Things like "You need Lore and
> Occult at 8 to know this" and such. This just seemed to be done a
> lot.
>
> For "Revised Hearthstones", we got a pretty weak list of examples.


Agreed for both.

Dex