News Sagging GPUs Could Break VRAM on 20- and 30-Series Models: Report

[Admin]

GeForce RTX 2080 Ti's are dying from damaged GDDR6 connection points made from heavy GPU sag late in the card's life cycle.

Sagging GPUs Could Break VRAM on 20- and 30-Series Models: Report : Read more

 

[Sluggotg]

I would love to see Tomshardware do an extensive roundup of GPU support devices. There are many styles out there so it can be a challenge to find the best support.

 

[InvalidError]

Time for GPU manufacturers to start securing their overweight copper-and-aluminum contraptions to their 4-slotted brackets in a manner where it can actually provide meaningful support instead of mostly hanging off of the PCIe slot with the IO bracket doing little more than holding the GPU in.

Makes me glad I'm too cheap to splurge on ridiculously sized GPUs.

 

[Eximo]

At some point they probably just need to give GPUs a real spine for rigidity. Wouldn't take much to make it really rigid.

Or come off the motherboard screw that is close to that location with a post and a standard mounting point on all GPUs.

 

[thestryker]

Seems like this has become a big benefit of using liquid cooling be it custom loop or AIO as my 3080 weighs about the same as my GTX 970. There should definitely be work done on coming up with a standard solution for all motherboards though.

 

[Alvar "Miles" Udell]

Wasn't a full metal backplate supposed to solve that problem?

 

[zamroni111]

This is why users should use inverted case.

When atx form factor was formalized in late 1900s, graphic cards had at most 1 small fan, not 1+ kg like today.

 

[Aggrophobic]

Duct tape.

 

[dimar]

I use Cooler Master HAF XB EVO desktop case which barely fit Gigabyte 3090. I had to remove the a fan and cut away some metal in the front of the case to fit 4090. 5090 will probably not fit for sure unless NVIDIA becomes NMIRACLE.

 

[SyCoREAPER]

I like my "EZDIY-FAB GPU Holder Brace" very rigid and secure.

 

[matrixdud]

Time to redesign the PCIe GPU slot. Maybe integrate all the power connector on to the motherboard, extend the slot and put another bracket on it.

 

[Colif]

GPU makers like Asus just see this as a way to charge more money. Instead of fixing the sag, they sell you an rgb covered bracket that holds it up

The ROG Wingwall graphics card holder keeps your GPU straight and stable | ROG - Republic of Gamers USA

The Republic of Gamers has a new customizable graphics card brace to keep your card perfectly level and supported: the ROG Wingwall.

rog.asus.com

So why fix something you can make money off?

 

[Kamen Rider Blade]

There needs to be a standardized Anti-Sag Bracket on the back of the Video Card.

Some form of standardized mount.

Maybe have a matching PCI bracket mounted on the back of the Video Card, opposite of the main bracket that has Video Out & Exhaust vents?

PCI brackets already are mass produced & common place.

Mounting a second set on back can form a "Standardized" interface for mounting Anti-Sag feet.

 

[Colif]

mine has an bracket that runs along the backplate all the way up to where the power cables attach.

Label shows its not an Nvidia card though

 

[P1nky]

Video is 17 months old, from Dec 22, 2021.

 

[edzieba]

On the upside, that means there should be a raft of borked 2080Tis with crappy plastic OEM bling coolers flooding the market for anyone with a reballing & reflow jig to snap up.

Wasn't a full metal backplate supposed to solve that problem?

As on the FE cards, where the metal cooler surround is screwed between the frontside, backplate, and rear bracket to form a single rigid unit.

 

[MJS WARLORD]

my pc builder put all the bits they did not use in a bag , the bits were leftovers from my coolermaster haf x tower , one of the items was a gpu support bracket but they said the gtx 1080 card was not heavy enough to need it.

To support it during transit they put a bag of foam inside the case that self inflates to support all component's

 

[DingusDog]

Wasn't a full metal backplate supposed to solve that problem?

Most metal backplates are superficial and offer minimal structural support.

 

[Vanderlindemedia]

Problem as usual is Nvidia skimping out on Quality to have or make more profit. If those thing where soldered correctly the sagging shoudnt be an issue.

 

[nerdvous]

Looks like the case I bought for my upcoming build has an anti-sag GPU bracket included, which is extremely welcome given this report. I might have overlooked it otherwise, so the author has my gratitude.

 

[Eximo]

Problem as usual is Nvidia skimping out on Quality to have or make more profit. If those thing where soldered correctly the sagging shoudnt be an issue.

Nvidia doesn't do the manufacturing at any stage...

 

[Elusive Ruse]

I would love to see Tomshardware do an extensive roundup of GPU support devices. There are many styles out there so it can be a challenge to find the best support.

Most cases from reputable brands come with anti-sag brackets now (G500A e.g.) if yours is lacking something like this might prove useful:

https://www.amazon.com/Graphics-Support-Adjustable-Non-Slip-Universal/dp/B0B2WCTGFV/ref=sr_1_7?crid=3E6Z80YP160VB&keywords=antisag&qid=1681402434&sprefix=an%2Caps%2C334&sr=8-7&th=1

 

[InvalidError]

Wasn't a full metal backplate supposed to solve that problem?

If you want strength from two relatively flimsy parallel material sheets, there needs to be bracing between the two converting deformation into tension-compression between the two planes to prevent parallelogram deformation, otherwise you gain near-zero stiffness. For backplates to be structurally significant, they'd need to be machined out of a ~4mm thick aluminum plate so the walls around component pockets can provide that bracing.

Most GPU backplates are purely decorative. At best, they provide mechanical protection for back-side SMDs. Cooling-wise, they insulate the PCB from airflow, which is actually detrimental to cooling unless you thermal pad everything just to break even since SMDs sink most of their heat into the PCB.

If those thing where soldered correctly the sagging shoudnt be an issue.

Bend a PCB enough and solder balls will break no matter how good the soldering job was, especially when you add metal fatigue from thermal expansion-contraction cycle on top.

 

[Friesiansam]

A piece of wood cut to the right length and some Blu Tak to secure it, job done for pence.

 

[Eximo]

I think 30 and 40 series founders GPUs might be immune to this. Not only do they have a very short PCB, but the design for the finstack and frame is basically a rigid body made of metal. I wonder if that is what prompted the design change knowing that they were going to use such massive coolers.