Saitek P880/P2500 and Madden - close but no cigar

[Guest]

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Well, based on the advice of some, i picked up a Saitek gamepad hoping it
would be good for Madden 2005. To see if it was any good, i loaded up Madden
2004. The analog sticks work well enough, although the 6 thumb buttons are a
little flimsy, but usable. This is where the good ole' PC gamepad idiocy
starts. The buttons are numbered totally irrationally:

1 2 5
3 4 6

Also, there are no start and select buttons.

Since all the madden ports are based off the PS2, the buttons assume the
Logitech Dual Action/Gravis gamepad pro numbering. So to get the button
layout to work right you have to reconfigure the buttons for EACH PROFILE in
Madden, and of course it wont let you reconfigure the controls without a
profile. The receivers also stick to the gamepad's numbering, so if you
remap the controls so the buttom 3 buttons are for the first three
receivers, receiver one would have a 1 on top, two would have a 3 on top,
and third would have a 4 on top. Or, if you wanted to set them up for the
bottom row, it would show 3 4 6. Fun.

I havent tried the programming software and maybe it can trick Madden into
showing more logical numbers, and maybe, just maybe, EA is spending the
month addressing PC controller quirks like this (with custom controller
profiles and numbering maybe), but I guess there just still isnt a perfect
choice for a gamepad for Madden on the PC. Can you imagine how console sales
would drop if they had to go through this in every game?

 

[Andrew]

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On Mon, 16 Aug 2004 21:12:16 -0400, "fredrickson" <no@spam.com> wrote:

>Well, based on the advice of some, i picked up a Saitek gamepad hoping it
>would be good for Madden 2005. To see if it was any good, i loaded up Madden
>2004. The analog sticks work well enough, although the 6 thumb buttons are a
>little flimsy, but usable. This is where the good ole' PC gamepad idiocy
>starts. The buttons are numbered totally irrationally:
>
>1 2 5
>3 4 6
>
>Also, there are no start and select buttons.

The Logitech Wingman Cordless I recommended has the right button
assignments by default and has a start button.
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[Guest]

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> The Logitech Wingman Cordless I recommended has the right button
> assignments by default and has a start button.

Yea but after the Dual Action fiasco Logitech doesnt inspire me with
reliability, although from what I read few if any are having problems with
it. I just wonder why the wireless version is built more sturdy than the
wire version and the Dual Action? And 40 bucks is overkill. I just wish
someone would come out with a PS2 converter that uses normal (or
customizable) axes and buttons. A plain old vanilla PSone gamepad with the
radioshack adapter was lightyears ahead of any PC gamepad but the damn
buttons use that bizzare order (i think there is one company making the same
circuit for all the cheap pads/converters... lots of the $9 dollar gamepads
have that same button layout), and also Madden 2004 recognized the left
stick's axes swapped. If only Logitech built the potentiometers right on the
dual action we could have a working $20 dollar gamepad for the PC with
standard numbering.