Samsung 171P in UK - weirdness

[Skipper102]

Hi, I've been around these forums a while now, looking for the right 17" LCD to get, and am close to getting the Samsung 171P. However, I feel the need to share my investigations so far:

-The UK Samsung website (www.samsungelectronics.co.uk), seems to be giving completely different specs from all other sites (US,FR,DE) such as a lower contrast of 400:1; and the type of panel as a-si-TN. The other sites all say it is a PVA panel with 500:1 contrast. Needless to say, I got on their case, but believe it or not the Pre-sales and Monitor Support hadn't even heard of the screen (its been on sale here for a month at least), whilst their Sales department wouldn't help me.

So, either Samsung UK are incompetent, or they are selling an older screen in the UK with the same name. Does anyone have this screen and can say the actual specs of it (UK or non-UK)?

-Also, if its a PVA (which I take to mean MVA) panel, this could affect people's hopes for a fast display of games (if I've read the forums correctly). Someone on another forum has one and says its good for games, so I may end up getting one anyway.

I've still got a few contacts who said they'd get back to me, so I'll post if I find anything out.

laters

 

[Guest]

Well not sure about the different specs, but PVA and MVA, though very similar, are not the exact same. But you shouldn't experience any bad problems with games, just some minimul ghosting I would imagine. I've had experience with a Viewsonic VG191 and it looked fine to me, and both panels have the same response time and used the same MVA/PVA technique.

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[flamethrower205]

PVA, although similar to MVA isn't it! Check on <A HREF="http://www.sid.org" target="_new">SID's Website</A>.

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[Guest]

I got a Samsung 171B, don't know how different the 171P is to this when it comes down to technology, but it lags like hell in 3D games. Given the response time of 25ms though, I suspect something is wrong. Anyone feel like commenting on this?

 

[flamethrower205]

please define what u mean by lag.

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[profjo00]

i think he means like lag, as when you play a game and the picture get updated like 1 a second, i guess you have played like games with a bad graphica card and everything is just slow.

 

[flamethrower205]

Well that's why I ask himt o define, because he may mean a few things.

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[Guest]

I'll bet by lag he meant ghosting/afterglow/blurring. In my experience, the only effect any monitor can have on framerate is when vertical-sync is enabled your FPS will be limited to the current refresh rate of the monitor. However, you can always turn v-sync off, so a monitor really does not limit your FPS in the way a slow video card would.

 

[Guest]

Since we're talking about an LCD monitor here, I think it should be fairly obvious what I mean. In 3D games things tend to look blurred, not the choppiness you'd experience with a slow graphics card. Certain places in MOHAA its just awful (heavy lag). I got a GF3 ti200 btw. I also get noticable ghosting when moving the pointer around in windows, and heavy flickering when playing back in my wave editor for instance.