Question Samsung 970 EVO NVME 2 Minute boot up

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For the past few months my 970 Evo NVME has taken 2-3 minutes to boot. The long part is when windows starts up and that circle is on the screen. I've tried switching M.2 slots but that didn't change anything.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Specs:
10700k
32g of ram
Asus prime z490-A
RTX 3080
Samsung 970 EVO 1 TB
Samsung 860 EVO 1 TB
Samsung 870 EVO 1TB
Kingston 480G SSD
 
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Knerk said:
For the past few months my 970 Evo NVME has taken 2-3 minutes to boot. The long part is when windows starts up and that circle is on the screen. I've tried switching M.2 slots but that didn't change anything.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Specs:
10700k
32g of ram
Asus prime z490-A
RTX 3080
Samsung 970 EVO 1 TB
Samsung 860 EVO 1 TB
Samsung 870 EVO 1TB
Kingston 480G SSD
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Make it smaller.

Unplug all disk except the OS disk.

Any diff?
 
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its happening before windows so its looking for a device. Bob is right, see if reducing amount of things it looking at to see if it is faster. Could guess it is probably one of the drives.

are you running the Samsung nvme drivers?
semiconductor.samsung.com

Tool & Software Download | Samsung Semiconductor Global

Download various software related to your product, including Samsung Magician, designed for use with Samsung's memory products, and find related information.
semiconductor.samsung.com semiconductor.samsung.com

bios time is just how long it takes bios to hand control to windows.
 
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Colif said:
its happening before windows so its looking for a device. Bob is right, see if reducing amount of things it looking at to see if it is faster. Could guess it is probably one of the drives.

are you running the Samsung nvme drivers?
semiconductor.samsung.com

Tool & Software Download | Samsung Semiconductor Global

Download various software related to your product, including Samsung Magician, designed for use with Samsung's memory products, and find related information.
semiconductor.samsung.com semiconductor.samsung.com

bios time is just how long it takes bios to hand control to windows.
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I have samsung magician installed and up to date. Are there any other drivers I need?
 
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Colif said:
if you scroll down page I linked, there is an nvme driver that might help the nvme.

i would run diagnostics on all 3 Samsung drives
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After full installation, including the restart, I restarted again to see if anything changed and from when the windows circle popped up. It took 2 minsutes and 20 seconds.
 
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Knerk said:
After full installation, including the restart, I restarted again to see if anything changed and from when the windows circle popped up. It took 2 minsutes and 20 seconds.
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It was worth a try. I would have been surprised if cause was the nvme.

Have you tried to start with all drives except nvme unplugged? see if it makes any difference.

Knerk said:
Specs:
10700k
32g of ram
Asus prime z490-A
RTX 3080
Samsung 970 EVO 1 TB
Samsung 860 EVO 1 TB
Samsung 870 EVO 1TB
Kingston 480G SSD
Click to expand...

what else is attached? tried unplugging all extra USB and external peripherals?

try updating Intel Management Engine interface, its under chipset here - https://www.asus.com/au/Motherboards-Components/Motherboards/PRIME/PRIME-Z490-A/HelpDesk_Download/

updating bios could help - https://www.asus.com/au/Motherboards-Components/Motherboards/PRIME/PRIME-Z490-A/HelpDesk_BIOS/

It is likely hardware that isn't responding to windows in time, hence you wait for pc to time out and move on to startup.

Have you had any other problems? could be related... anything small?

CountMike said:
https://greatis.com/bootracer/index.html
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curious, does this speed up the time before or after logon? It looks like it just looks at windows startup programs.
 
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Colif said:
It was worth a try. I would have been surprised if cause was the nvme.

Have you tried to start with all drives except nvme unplugged? see if it makes any difference.



what else is attached? tried unplugging all extra USB and external peripherals?

try updating Intel Management Engine interface, its under chipset here - https://www.asus.com/au/Motherboards-Components/Motherboards/PRIME/PRIME-Z490-A/HelpDesk_Download/

updating bios could help - https://www.asus.com/au/Motherboards-Components/Motherboards/PRIME/PRIME-Z490-A/HelpDesk_BIOS/

It is likely hardware that isn't responding to windows in time, hence you wait for pc to time out and move on to startup.

Have you had any other problems? could be related... anything small?


curious, does this speed up the time before or after logon? It looks like it just looks at windows startup programs.
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I tried booting with everything unplugged except for mouse and keyboard but that didn't do anything. I just unplugged the 3 satas from my mobo and it made no difference at all.
 
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Knerk

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Colif said:
It was worth a try. I would have been surprised if cause was the nvme.

Have you tried to start with all drives except nvme unplugged? see if it makes any difference.



what else is attached? tried unplugging all extra USB and external peripherals?

try updating Intel Management Engine interface, its under chipset here - https://www.asus.com/au/Motherboards-Components/Motherboards/PRIME/PRIME-Z490-A/HelpDesk_Download/

updating bios could help - https://www.asus.com/au/Motherboards-Components/Motherboards/PRIME/PRIME-Z490-A/HelpDesk_BIOS/

It is likely hardware that isn't responding to windows in time, hence you wait for pc to time out and move on to startup.

Have you had any other problems? could be related... anything small?


curious, does this speed up the time before or after logon? It looks like it just looks at windows startup programs.
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I also updated both of those within the last 2-3 months. They are all up to date.
 
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So we need to work out what hardware is to blame.
loading in safe mode wouldn't prove anything as delay occurs before logon screen
could unplug GPU and boot off Igpu just to remove GPU from possible causes.

its not drives. I mean, we can't start windows without nvme but we could boot off an ubuntu USB and see if its just as slow. It might even show errors. https://ubuntu.com/tutorials/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows#1-overview

what else is in the PC?
 
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Knerk

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Colif said:
So we need to work out what hardware is to blame.
loading in safe mode wouldn't prove anything as delay occurs before logon screen
could unplug GPU and boot off Igpu just to remove GPU from possible causes.

its not drives. I mean, we can't start windows without nvme but we could boot off an ubuntu USB and see if its just as slow. It might even show errors. https://ubuntu.com/tutorials/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows#1-overview

what else is in the PC?
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Boots just as slow without gpu in. And what do you mean by what else is in the pc?
 
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So for some reason its fixed now. I was going through my documents to put them onto a usb stick since I was going to reinstall windows. I deleted some game folders in the documents tab that I didn't use anymore and it now boots in 11 seconds. Not entirely too sure if that really fixed it but now it's normal
Thank you all for the help
 
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