Samsung 970 EVO Plus SSD Review: More Layers Brings More Performance

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Samsung's new 970 EVO Plus takes on the SSD market with new flash and speeds that reach up to 3.5 GB/s.

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[Talwyn Wize]

I do wish you'd compared it to the 960, though, so we could see the improvement in comparison to its previous generation.

 

[kiniku]

And the 970 Pro.

 

[seanwebster]

[quotemsg=21702521,0,2354409]I do wish you'd compared it to the 960, though, so we could see the improvement in comparison to its previous generation.[/quotemsg]

[quotemsg=21702550,0,229774]And the 970 Pro.[/quotemsg]

Unfortunately, I do not have access to either. I did get to borrow a 1TB 970 PRO temporarily for testing, so that is included, but not the 512GB model.

 

[TCA_ChinChin]

I've heard from some other sources that it's faster than the 970 pro (in some cases?).

 

[Onus]

So, Samsung too has switched to the lower-endurance TLC...

 

[seanwebster]

[quotemsg=21702700,0,1912839]I've heard from some other sources that it's faster than the 970 pro (in some cases?).[/quotemsg]
Check out the 1TB charts on the third page of the review. In the 50GB copy and 6GB read tests, SYSmark, and game load test it out performs it.

[quotemsg=21702858,0,47340]So, Samsung too has switched to the lower-endurance TLC...[/quotemsg]
As end products both the 970 EVO and EVO Plus feature the same exact endurance rating. They have been using TLC in the EVO line up for years now.

 

[mac_angel]

I'm curious if they've made it compatible with PCIe gen 4 with a firmware upgrade. Little odd to be coming out with a PCIe gen3 product when the gen 4 was ratified last summer.

 

[mdd1963]

sticking with my 960 EVO for the life of the rig, as it is only 2 years old and counting...

 

[ArmadaCas]

Does anyone know if this SAMSUNG 970 EVO PLUS (1TB) will run in an ASUS Z170 Pro Gaming with an i7 6700k..? The documentation for the mobo mentions M.2, but not NVME, so I'm kinda lost.

 

[J Lock]

Nothing about temps. Crazy!

 

[seanwebster]

[quotemsg=21703103,0,169108]I'm curious if they've made it compatible with PCIe gen 4 with a firmware upgrade. Little odd to be coming out with a PCIe gen3 product when the gen 4 was ratified last summer.[/quotemsg]

"As with previous specifications of PCIe, PCIe 4.0 will be fully backward-compatible, so devices designed for earlier specifications will still operate correctly with the new technology."

-> https://www.microsemi.com/product-directory/storage/5439-pci-express-4-0-pcie-gen4

[quotemsg=21704739,0,2004062]Does anyone know if this SAMSUNG 970 EVO PLUS (1TB) will run in an ASUS Z170 Pro Gaming with an i7 6700k..? The documentation for the mobo mentions M.2, but not NVME, so I'm kinda lost.[/quotemsg]
Yes, it will. The M.2 slot runs at PCIe 3.0 x4 interface speeds and has a new UEFI with NVMe support, so it is compatible.

 

[Rob_54]

[quotemsg=21704739,0,2004062]Does anyone know if this SAMSUNG 970 EVO PLUS (1TB) will run in an ASUS Z170 Pro Gaming with an i7 6700k..? The documentation for the mobo mentions M.2, but not NVME, so I'm kinda lost.[/quotemsg]

A quick google say your mobo is PCIe 3.0 x4 so yes, it will work properly with a NVMe M.2 SSD.

 

[epobirs]

[quotemsg=21703103,0,169108]I'm curious if they've made it compatible with PCIe gen 4 with a firmware upgrade. Little odd to be coming out with a PCIe gen3 product when the gen 4 was ratified last summer.[/quotemsg]

What would be the point? It's going to be a good while before PCIe 4.0 is a significant market for consumer products. Samsung will likely be on to another product generation by that time. They'll probably want a good spread of engineering samples from motherboard makers to test with before launching PCIe 4.0 products.

There's also the practice of minimizing the number of new technologies implemented in a single product to avoid problems. I recall a GPU maker who got badly bitten when they tried to combine a new architecture launch with a process node shrink. It went badly and gave their rival the market lead for a year or so. The rival had chosen to do their new architecture on the node they already knew well, even though it meant a BIG chip. It turned out to be the better choice.

 

[TzunnyNIB]

Hello,
just purchased this today and it's a failure, it should be faster not slower than norma 970 evo version...
Any sugestions?
That's M.2 version...

https://imgur.com/lxdRhW0

View: https://i.imgur.com/lxdRhW0.jpg

 

[TJ Hooker]

Hello,
just purchased this today and it's a failure, it should be faster not slower than norma 970 evo version...
Any sugestions?
That's M.2 version...

Should probably just start your own thread for this, but...
What motherboard and CPU do you have?

 

[TzunnyNIB]

https://www.asus.com/Motherboards/PRIME-X470-PRO/
Ryzen 7, 2700x

 

[TJ Hooker]

Which M.2 slot is the SSD in?

 

[TzunnyNIB]

Which M.2 slot is the SSD in?

Both are occupied, both ssd's are M.2.
EVO Plus is in the bottom slot, while the EVO basic is in the slot under the CPU

 

[TJ Hooker]

Bottom slot is only PCIe x2 rather than x4.

 

[TzunnyNIB]

Sorry, but i'm a bit of noob. That means: any ssd i put there (if i swap them is useless i guess) will have half of the listed speeds from specifications?
So the ssd is ok but the mobo slot doesn't allow him it to run full mode?!

Is there a mobo for Ryzen 7 which to have 2 * M.2 slots that to run in full mode?

And thank you very much for the help sir!

 

[TJ Hooker]

Pretty much.

I don't know of any Ryzen mobo that has two M.2 slots that are both 3.0 x4 off the top of my head. You'd probably have to get an M.2 add in card adapter so you could put the SSD in a PCIe slot. But your graphic card would drop down to x8 from x16 in that case.

 

[TzunnyNIB]

Reducing gpu from x16 to x8 afffects performance or what actually affects?

 

[TJ Hooker]

For gaming the impact of dropping down to x8 is small to non existent in most cases.

 

[mdd1963]

Was not this article from 10 months or so ago?

If running short on material, change afew words, slap on a new date, and wrap up/present it as a new gift?