Review Samsung 980 M.2 NVMe SSD Review: Going DRAMless with V6 V-NAND

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Its not that cheap..... But still decent. Performance wise, its fine.

Many people thought that you need to fastest drive and PCIE 4.0 ones will be much faster. All the 5000-7000MB/s are just sequential transfers on benchmarks, you will not be able to hit such speeds in reality.
 
Change MLC to TLC is a big mistake, endurance is low and disk slow down after fill witch data. It's 980 EVO, PRO stop to exists on 970. Shame on samsung! How dare you!
 
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^ Not with games with long loading times such as GTA 5, Witcher 3 etc. I currently have a dramless 2TB NVME, and I would not go back to using HDD as game drives.
 
Okay, so I read the comments above after I was given the 980 as a Birthday present (weird I know, but hey, a gift is good value for money in anybodys books)

But I have a query..

I'm intending to install a Samsung 980 Pro NVME as a 'second' NVME Drive. I'm probably over thinking the process and the more I do the more doubts enters my head.

Presently I have my Win 10 OS on a 970 Evo NVME located in the 'number 1' slot of my AsRock Taichi X570 motherboard. Can someone confirm that it's okay to 'simply' install the 980 in the second slot and then move my OS across for the improved access time. Or....

... is it best to move the 970 Evo to the second slot (hopefully the OS still connects to the 3rd party software), install the 980 into the first slot, then mirror the OS across wtih the Samsung Migration software?

3rd Option (here's the evidence of me over-thinking it, moving the OS to available empty SSD [non-NVME] , setting the 980 Pro into the first slot, the 970 EVO into the second slot then once confirmation is made that the OS can see the NVMEs, migrate the OS from the SSD to the 980............phew!

Be grateful for a 'guru' to walk me through the process, thanks in advance.

Regards

Seyley
 
Seyley said:
Okay, so I read the comments above after I was given the 980 as a Birthday present (weird I know, but hey, a gift is good value for money in anybodys books)

But I have a query..

I'm intending to install a Samsung 980 Pro NVME as a 'second' NVME Drive. I'm probably over thinking the process and the more I do the more doubts enters my head.

Presently I have my Win 10 OS on a 970 Evo NVME located in the 'number 1' slot of my AsRock Taichi X570 motherboard. Can someone confirm that it's okay to 'simply' install the 980 in the second slot and then move my OS across for the improved access time. Or....

... is it best to move the 970 Evo to the second slot (hopefully the OS still connects to the 3rd party software), install the 980 into the first slot, then mirror the OS across wtih the Samsung Migration software?

3rd Option (here's the evidence of me over-thinking it, moving the OS to available empty SSD [non-NVME] , setting the 980 Pro into the first slot, the 970 EVO into the second slot then once confirmation is made that the OS can see the NVMEs, migrate the OS from the SSD to the 980............phew!

Be grateful for a 'guru' to walk me through the process, thanks in advance.

Regards

Seyley
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I would leave the current things on the 970, and just add the 980 as a second drive.
The actual user facing difference is not as much as the benchmarks imply.
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4YoRKQy-UO4
 
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Can I use this Samsung 980 NVMe as my boot drive on my Asus Z97 Pro Gamer? The mainboard supports up to PCIe 3, so hopefully the drive speed is fully utilized.
 
USAFRet said:
For what use?

The M.2 port on a Z97 is almost certainly not PCIe 3.0 x4.
Z97 boards rarely have full capability for new NVMe drives
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I wish to revive the board, since the i7 CPU is still good for work.

Asus said the latest BIOS update will enable NVMe support, but I'm not aware of the PCIe x4 issue. Can you explain further?
 
hstpctech said:
I wish to revive the board, since the i7 CPU is still good for work.

Asus said the latest BIOS update will enable NVMe support, but I'm not aware of the PCIe x4 issue. Can you explain further?
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Yes, "NVMe support". That does not necessarily mean full performance with latest gen drives, only that it "works".

x4 relates to the PCIe lanes.
The M.2 port in my my ASRock Z97 is:
"1 x M.2_SSD (NGFF) Socket 3, supports M Key M.2 SATA3 6.0 Gb/s module and M.2 PCI Express module up to Gen2 x2 (10 Gb/s) "

That drive would work, but at severely reduced speed. Reduced to the point of a SATA III SSD, at best.

What drives are in it now?
If only HDD, just put in a SATA III SSD. Less $$ per GB, and you'll not see any difference.
 
USAFRet said:
Yes, "NVMe support". That does not necessarily mean full performance with latest gen drives, only that it "works".

x4 relates to the PCIe lanes.
The M.2 port in my my ASRock Z97 is:
"1 x M.2_SSD (NGFF) Socket 3, supports M Key M.2 SATA3 6.0 Gb/s module and M.2 PCI Express module up to Gen2 x2 (10 Gb/s) "

That drive would work, but at severely reduced speed. Reduced to the point of a SATA III SSD, at best.

What drives are in it now?
If only HDD, just put in a SATA III SSD. Less $$ per GB, and you'll not see any difference.
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You pointed out exactly my concern. No wonder Asus deflected my question.

From Asus manual: (http://dlcdnet.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb.../E10265_Z97-PRO_GAMER_Guide_v2_web_hi_res.pdf)
2 x PCI Express 2.0 x1 slots (share bandwidth with M.2 Socket 3)

I plan to bring over 5 HDD and 1 SATA III SSD. If 980 can run at full speed, I prepared to drop one HDD.
 
hstpctech said:
Thank you for the valuable information, otherwise I'd wasted money on that 980.

Out of curiosity, what's the highest M.2 can Z97 handle?
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Depends on the specific board and BIOS version.
Some of them can use a PCIe 3.0 x4.
Some, only PCIe 2.0 x2.
Some can boot from a drive in the M.2 port, some cannot.

But, the Z97 boards were released on the cusp of NVMe drives appearing. Support is shaky.

And as evidenced in the above videos...we are deep into diminishing returns.

I have an Intel 660p in a PCIe slot on my Z97 board.
Along with a selection of SATA III drives of varying ages and sizes. (list below)

In theory, the sequential speed of the 660p is almost 4x the SAYA III drives.
In practice, I literally cannot tell. And not just 'feel', but rather timed controlled tests.
My typical use of Adobe Lightroom...zero difference.
 
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