Samsung VA panel good for gaming?

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I have a LG 29UM57-P overclock to 75Hz max refresh rate awesome monitor beautiful colors just one thing I'm tired of the top left corner light bleed Im trying to ignoring but everyday seems to get worse to me so I hear all AH-IPS panels have light bleed so I was thinking of getting the Samsung S29E790C it's VA panel produces top notch blacks but not so good color so I hear I'm on budget for a less annoying monitor 300-400. I'll be gaming on a single GTX 970.
 
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That's a very good monitor. But I have to ask; where did you hear or see that VA doesn't reproduce colors as well as IPS? I'm asking, because VA has passed IPS already, due to the fact that VA don't get as many defects as IPS do, so both uniformity and color accuracy is better on VA. The only exception to that, is unless you buy a professional IPS, in which case would be pointless, because it's not a color accurate monitor that makes the final product look great, it's how good you are at using whatever program you make that product in.

I personally hate when people say that IPS > VA, it's simply a fact? Ridiculous to say the least, uneducated opinions turns into facts on a daily basis it seems. I earned money using a TN 6 bit...
As secondary monitor for games should be fine, but you should check it before you buy, I have tried samsung 24" VA panel, and wasn't impressed. Maybe it was bad example... Compared to my old TN monitor blacks were the same (after brightness and contrast adjustment), noticed some glow when viewing from angle (probably color shift), text was blurry, some slight yellow tint, but one corner was bright without tint and I would say a bit cold/blue.
 
My Dell 2407FP uses an older samsung PVA (An Enhanced VA) without issue, colors are better than TN+Film and the panel responce itself is good no ghosting, but im not sure about newer VA panels.
 
Hello,



That's a very good monitor. But I have to ask; where did you hear or see that VA doesn't reproduce colors as well as IPS? I'm asking, because VA has passed IPS already, due to the fact that VA don't get as many defects as IPS do, so both uniformity and color accuracy is better on VA. The only exception to that, is unless you buy a professional IPS, in which case would be pointless, because it's not a color accurate monitor that makes the final product look great, it's how good you are at using whatever program you make that product in.

I personally hate when people say that IPS > VA, it's simply a fact? Ridiculous to say the least, uneducated opinions turns into facts on a daily basis it seems. I earned money using a TN 6 bit monitor with a glossy coating, that's as far away from accurate as you can get, how? Because I can't stress enough how ridicilous the argument for IPS and "color sensitive work" has become over the years. It doesn't make any sense whatsoever to even have that argument. If someone can't use say the histogram and waveform in Premiere for instance, then how would that person know what is actually considered accurate in terms of color? Display market in a nutshell, backed up by clever marketing, educating consumers into thinking they're experts, by learning these new fancy words every year, but I digress...

However, OP, it's possible that you confuse IPS glow for backlight or edge light bleed on your monitor, without photos it's impossible for us to tell. I will say this though, VA has got little to no defects in majority of their monitors, I haven't really come across severe back/edge bleed so far. The Samsung really stood out to me, because the screen is curved, but not a ridiculous curve as you find in the TV market, just slight, which adds to the wow factor in my opinion, making them look more expensive than what they actually are.

As far as response time is concerned, VA is good enough, it's not something you'll notice while using the monitor, because 60 Hz is still 16.67 ms regardless what the marketing teams say about their ultra fast 1 ms 60 Hz TN monitors. That number doesn't mean anything,

60 Hz = 16 ms
144 Hz = 6 ms

Even if a 144 Hz monitor displays 2.4x less ghosting than a 60 Hz monitor, it's still there and very noticeable, hence why manufacturers pushed Black frame insertion, Lightboost and ULMB, which honestly throws the argument regarding response time between the three common panel types in any shape or form, out the window, because not even the manufacturers agree with lower is better, that's purely to boost sales.

Input lag however is tricky, the manufacturers don't list this spec anywhere, because if they did, some monitors would sell better than others, even if the X ms difference isn't noticeable to anyone, because the mindset your average consumer have is lower is better. LCD's are limited to displaying frames and don't flicker, so I think it's a pretty bad spec to even include in an LCD, so I kind of agree with the manufacturers a little bit. You can always find out what the real input lag is by testing it yourself, or finding a reliable source on the internet.

A problem might be the aspect ratio of your (future?) monitor. 21:9 isn't supported by a lot of games, it's not by Fallout 4 or even Battlefront, it doesn't look right on either, despite being included as an option, which obviously only tells half the story. I advise against a 21:9 monitor, because not only that, but if you ever decide to play a blu ray movie on that monitor, regardless what people might say, the black bars in the blu ray is encoded on purpose in the master, so the total aspect ratio is actually 16:9 (stick to native otherwise you lose detail, and might as well watch Netflix at that point), because the file is 1920x1080, but only 1920x817 is the actual movie, the other remaining pixels are just displaying black at all times.

For productivity it's great, but if that's not your thing, then honestly don't bother getting a 21:9 monitor, it's not worth it in my opinion. It will give you the wow factor just like the curve would, but that's about it.

In order to recommend a different monitor, you have to list where you're buying from, and what your budget is, "300-400" doesn't tell us anything, currency is important to include. :)






All the best!
 
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