SanDisk Z400s SSD Review

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ZolaIII

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Would actually like to see the 240 GB model & dose it catches up at least reasonable with declared write speeds.

Whole topic is a dead fish until we see first implementation next year that will use 3D XPoint RAM instead of DRAM for caching purposes.
 

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Newegg has Adata 128GB drives on sale for $38. Deal abound out there. OEMs may buy these for cheap so they can advertise their $400 laptop has an SSD, but the rest of us smart shoppers can score deals on better drives for our upgrade purposes.
 

Marcus Zettergren

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Part of the conclusion just doesn't make sense even though i agree the Evo is so much better.

As a potential upgrade, the Z400s is a fairly poor prospect, largely because of its price. In terms of value, Samsung's 850 EVO just wrecks every other company's attempt to compete. With the 128GB Z400s at $45 and the 120GB 850 EVO going for $68, we have to recommend Samsung's offering.

Unless my maths are way off, which it very well could be, the EVO is 62% more/GB. For a gaming disk, the Z400 is just as good as the EVO, and i suspect for a thin ultrabook with a "U" cpu, the cpu will be the bottleneck long before an SSD would be a showstopper.
 
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Gaming performance (which mainly only affects load times) is but one use case scenario. The CPU isn't going to be the bottleneck either, though low-cost notebooks can be limited by the main chipset of the motherboard, though even then it wouldn't be a total bottleneck but could limit performance.

How the CPU, chipset, and different scenarios work isn't a simple calculation.

I think this is GREAT to have an offering like this. I know fast SSD's seem important to most people but they way my sister uses her PC she wouldn't know the difference. It would still boot up pretty quick and then she's mostly in an office environment.

It's a lot faster than an HDD at times, reasonably inexpensive, and won't take several seconds to come out of standby mode like an HDD.
 

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If we want to push solid-state storage into lower-end systems, the expensive DRAM has to go.

According to Anandtech this December 2015:

The average spot price of one 4Gb DDR4 memory chip rated to run at 2133MHz was $2.221 at press time, according to DRAMeXchange,

So for a DRAM in SSD thats 2.221$ well spend (Ok, maybe it increases cost 4$ but anyway...)
Make it DDR3 and youll save 50cents.
 

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There is a bit more to it than just the physical DRAM. The controller has to have provisions in place for it, the extra design in the PCB, other components to support the DRAM and so on. It all adds up when companies are fighting to find a way to shave off a few Dollars at a time.
 


Exactly.
Let's do some more meaningful algebra which I'm making up of course but know to be quite possible:
1) Profit margin of laptop-> $10
2) Savings on SSD (total) vs faster SSD-> $5

Profit is DOUBLED!

Most people will just see that it's an SSD and the capacity on the entry or mid-tier devices this would be aimed for. Saving $5 can make a huge difference in profits since as said they're fighting over scraps a lot of the time.

Some mobile devices were actually just BREAKING EVEN due to the tight competition and price drops.
 

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Good(not excellent) price, performance better than HDD and some extra minutes of battery? I can see many oems buying it...
 

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One of the OEMs in question is Dell. I got a new work laptop (Inspiron 17" 5000) with one in it this week. Encrypting the 256GB drive with Bitlocker took almost an hour. It's not the MX200 and Vertex 4 I have at home, but it's certainly much faster than the hard drive that I would surely be tagged with had I not asked for an SSD when the laptop was ordered.
 
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