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Hi everyone,

I am currently residing in Germany having moved from UK. Since moving
here, I am sorely missing viewing English (language) channels. Over
the past few weeks I have been looking around for PC TV-cards which
can help in providing Free (legal) digital channels internationally.
After doing some intense search I managed to find 3 decent Satellite
TV-cards which are as follows:

1)Hercules Smart TV Satellite
http://europe.hercules.com/showpage.php?p=70&b=0&f=1

2) Cinergy 1200 DVB-S
http://productsen.terratec.net/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=195&mode=thread&order=0&thold=0

3) Hauppague WinTV-NOVA-s usb
http://www.hauppauge.co.uk/pages/products/data_novasusb.html

But my problem still remains on out of these 3 cards which does
actually provides best value for money and Free digital international
channels as claimed on their websites.

Does anyone here have experience using a PC-TV card which actually
does work in recieving International channels?

Many Thanks,

Manny
 
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Manny K wrote:

>Does anyone here have experience using a PC-TV card which actually
>does work in recieving International channels?

I wonder if you aren't getting confused?

PCI-TV cards take an RF or video source (from a VCR, regular antenna,
DVD player, sat receiver etc.) and display it on the PC monitor. This
is local only.

PCI-SAT cards connect directly to a dish and receive FTA (and possibly
encrypted) sat channels, which they display on the monitor. This is
satellite.

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Jomtien <jomtien@the.beach> wrote in message news:<7q19909io96paq0om5pcicu5g1cvhjdnn9@4ax.com>...
> Manny K wrote:
>
> >Does anyone here have experience using a PC-TV card which actually
> >does work in recieving International channels?
>
> I wonder if you aren't getting confused?
>
> PCI-TV cards take an RF or video source (from a VCR, regular antenna,
> DVD player, sat receiver etc.) and display it on the PC monitor. This
> is local only.
>
> PCI-SAT cards connect directly to a dish and receive FTA (and possibly
> encrypted) sat channels, which they display on the monitor. This is
> satellite.

Thanks for the info mate! Actually yes I meant a Sat-TV card for the
PC where I will also buy a Satellite Dish to view channel but what I
am keen to know is that these websites (one selling PC-TV cards) claim
that one can recieve free international channels (provided you have a
satellite dish)..is this true or do I have to buy a decoder also
before I can view anything?

Manny K
 
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On 2 May 2004 05:35:55 -0700, manny007@postmaster.co.uk (Manny K)
wrote:

>Jomtien <jomtien@the.beach> wrote in message news:<7q19909io96paq0om5pcicu5g1cvhjdnn9@4ax.com>...
>> Manny K wrote:
>>
>> >Does anyone here have experience using a PC-TV card which actually
>> >does work in recieving International channels?
>>
>> I wonder if you aren't getting confused?
>>
>> PCI-TV cards take an RF or video source (from a VCR, regular antenna,
>> DVD player, sat receiver etc.) and display it on the PC monitor. This
>> is local only.
>>
>> PCI-SAT cards connect directly to a dish and receive FTA (and possibly
>> encrypted) sat channels, which they display on the monitor. This is
>> satellite.
>
>Thanks for the info mate! Actually yes I meant a Sat-TV card for the
>PC where I will also buy a Satellite Dish to view channel but what I
>am keen to know is that these websites (one selling PC-TV cards) claim
>that one can recieve free international channels (provided you have a
>satellite dish)..is this true or do I have to buy a decoder also
>before I can view anything?
>
>Manny K

Most of them cn pick up the unencrypted channels.
You should ask in one on the European satellite groups.
 
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On a sunny day (1 May 2004 14:38:11 -0700) it happened
manny007@postmaster.co.uk (Manny K) wrote in
<7815d07a.0405011338.5743c991@posting.google.com>:

>Hi everyone,
>
>I am currently residing in Germany having moved from UK. Since moving
>here, I am sorely missing viewing English (language) channels. Over
>the past few weeks I have been looking around for PC TV-cards which
>can help in providing Free (legal) digital channels internationally.
>After doing some intense search I managed to find 3 decent Satellite
>TV-cards which are as follows:
BBC world is free on Hotbird 13 east and will give you some biased news.
BBC prime is also on Hotbird 13 east but you need a decoder.
CNN the same.
Apart from the ones you mentioned, you could look at SkyStar2 PC
card (very cheap).
I have a SkyStar 1.
Software decoders are available for both cards in both MS windows and Linux.
If you need a official CAM the SkyStar1 has an addon board for that, but
it is expensive.
Q
 
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On Sun, 02 May 2004 13:23:58 GMT, Jan Panteltje
<pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote:

>Software decoders are available for both cards in both MS windows and Linux.

But not officially. That software pirates the encrpyted programming.
 
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On a sunny day (Sun, 02 May 2004 09:57:12 -0400) it happened Gary Tait
<classicsat@yahoo.cominvalid> wrote in
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>On Sun, 02 May 2004 13:23:58 GMT, Jan Panteltje
><pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>Software decoders are available for both cards in both MS windows and Linux.
>
>But not officially. That software pirates the encrpyted programming.
Officially the US is liberating Iraq.
So much for officially.
 
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On Sun, 02 May 2004 13:23:58 GMT, Jan Panteltje
<pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote:

>BBC world is free on Hotbird 13 east and will give you some biased news.

Is that the BBC's reputation nowadays?
 
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On a sunny day (Sun, 02 May 2004 21:05:44 +0100) it happened Laurence Payne
<l@laurenceDELETEpayne.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in
<b2la90dunhsptbgug96u2uqs3sheupk5ge@4ax.com>:

>On Sun, 02 May 2004 13:23:58 GMT, Jan Panteltje
><pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>BBC world is free on Hotbird 13 east and will give you some biased news.
>
>Is that the BBC's reputation nowadays?
It is in my view.
Compare it to euronews...
 
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On Sun, 02 May 2004 20:22:18 GMT, Jan Panteltje
<pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote:

>>>BBC world is free on Hotbird 13 east and will give you some biased news.
>>
>>Is that the BBC's reputation nowadays?
>It is in my view.
>Compare it to euronews...

Presumably you've been comparing for some time? Can you give
examples where you feel coverage to have been biased? The BBC has
recently been criticised for being highly skeptical to the British
government's propaganda. Quite healthy, I thought?
 
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Manny K wrote:

>what I
>am keen to know is that these websites (one selling PC-TV cards) claim
>that one can recieve free international channels (provided you have a
>satellite dish)..is this true or do I have to buy a decoder also
>before I can view anything?

A TV capture card will do just that: capture TV from whatever source.
If the sat receiver you connect to it can receive the required channel
then the capture card will get it onto your PC.

See www.lyngsat.com for the many free channels.

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On a sunny day (Sun, 02 May 2004 22:56:55 +0100) it happened Laurence Payne
<l@laurenceDELETEpayne.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in
<ffra90dmng5g0gcb9dpjk71ill1uul5cgu@4ax.com>:

>On Sun, 02 May 2004 20:22:18 GMT, Jan Panteltje
><pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>>>BBC world is free on Hotbird 13 east and will give you some biased news.
>>>
>>>Is that the BBC's reputation nowadays?
>>It is in my view.
>>Compare it to euronews...
>
>Presumably you've been comparing for some time? Can you give
>examples where you feel coverage to have been biased? The BBC has
>recently been criticised for being highly skeptical to the British
>government's propaganda. Quite healthy, I thought?
Too much blaring Bair, to much 'from Washington' to much 'from Israel'
daft boring setup, 'hard talk' is rigged beforehand.
Too much the same people in view over and over again.
Too much capitalist overhyped.
And BBC leadership was changed: the critical one has left.
It is a UK gov institution, extention of US terrorist Bush & Cheney,
the what you refer to as 'critical' is just brought in to make people think
it is objective.
Amateur job.
JP
 
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Laurence Payne <l@laurenceDELETEpayne.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message news:<b2la90dunhsptbgug96u2uqs3sheupk5ge@4ax.com>...
> On Sun, 02 May 2004 13:23:58 GMT, Jan Panteltje
> <pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >BBC world is free on Hotbird 13 east and will give you some biased news.
>
> Is that the BBC's reputation nowadays?


Hmmm...I am not keen on watching news guys, I can find that on net :)
I simply miss watching light hearted English channels:) Here in
Germany its quite expensive to get TV licence and I am assuming
payable cable channels arent cheap either so I am aiming to get a
Satellite PC TV card and a satellite dish only with purpose to watch
something in English including (Free and legal) sports, comedy
channels etc. These satellite cards claim we can watch "free digital
channels" so I just wanted some guartee that they do what they say.

But thanks a lot to all who replied my request, I really appreciate it
:)

Manny
 
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On Sun, 02 May 2004 16:42:14 GMT, Jan Panteltje
<pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote:

>>>Software decoders are available for both cards in both MS windows and Linux.
>>
>>But not officially. That software pirates the encrpyted programming.

>Officially the US is liberating Iraq.
>So much for officially.


Officially most European countries are capitalist market economies and
are allies with the US.

In practice they are closer to the old USSR.


Sam
 
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On a sunny day (Mon, 03 May 2004 17:32:18 +1000) it happened Sam Richards
<me@privacy.net> wrote in <c74sht$hji2q$1@ID-197514.news.uni-berlin.de>:

>On Sun, 02 May 2004 16:42:14 GMT, Jan Panteltje
><pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>>>Software decoders are available for both cards in both MS windows and Linux.
>>>
>>>But not officially. That software pirates the encrpyted programming.
>
>>Officially the US is liberating Iraq.
>>So much for officially.
>
>
>Officially most European countries are capitalist market economies and
>are allies with the US.
>
>In practice they are closer to the old USSR.
>
>
>Sam
You means geographically closer.
Try a dictionary.
 
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Why don't you just go into any German electrical chain store and pick up one
of their Digital Satellite packages?
For example Berlet (www.berlet.de) are advertising in my local rag today a
Nokia package with digital receiver, 100cm dish and LNB for 199 Euro.
You should be able to rig that up point it at 28E Astra 2 and get a good
number of Free to Air English channels.
When you feel daring, you can fit it to a motorised mount and see what is on
19E and 13E too.
IMHO going into a PC doesn't make sense if you just want to watch
television.
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"Manny K" <manny007@postmaster.co.uk> wrote in message
news:7815d07a.0405011338.5743c991@posting.google.com...
> Hi everyone,
>
> I am currently residing in Germany having moved from UK. Since moving
> here, I am sorely missing viewing English (language) channels. Over
> the past few weeks I have been looking around for PC TV-cards which
> can help in providing Free (legal) digital channels internationally.
> After doing some intense search I managed to find 3 decent Satellite
> TV-cards which are as follows:
>
> 1)Hercules Smart TV Satellite
> http://europe.hercules.com/showpage.php?p=70&b=0&f=1
>
> 2) Cinergy 1200 DVB-S
>
http://productsen.terratec.net/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=195&mode=thread&order=0&thold=0
>
> 3) Hauppague WinTV-NOVA-s usb
> http://www.hauppauge.co.uk/pages/products/data_novasusb.html
>
> But my problem still remains on out of these 3 cards which does
> actually provides best value for money and Free digital international
> channels as claimed on their websites.
>
> Does anyone here have experience using a PC-TV card which actually
> does work in recieving International channels?
>
> Many Thanks,
>
> Manny
 
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On 3 May 2004 16:15:43 -0700, manny007@postmaster.co.uk (Manny K)
wrote:

>Laurence Payne <l@laurenceDELETEpayne.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message news:<b2la90dunhsptbgug96u2uqs3sheupk5ge@4ax.com>...
>> On Sun, 02 May 2004 13:23:58 GMT, Jan Panteltje
>> <pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> >BBC world is free on Hotbird 13 east and will give you some biased news.
>>
>> Is that the BBC's reputation nowadays?
>
>
>Hmmm...I am not keen on watching news guys, I can find that on net :)
>I simply miss watching light hearted English channels:) Here in
>Germany its quite expensive to get TV licence and I am assuming
>payable cable channels arent cheap either so I am aiming to get a
>Satellite PC TV card and a satellite dish only with purpose to watch
>something in English including (Free and legal) sports, comedy
>channels etc. These satellite cards claim we can watch "free digital
>channels" so I just wanted some guartee that they do what they say.
>
>But thanks a lot to all who replied my request, I really appreciate it
>:)
>
>Manny

Well, officially you can subscribe to BBC Prime, but you need a
receiver that takes a conditional access card. Comedy but no
sports. Depending on location, dish size and receiver sensitivity
you +might+ receive BBC1 ..4 which are free-to-air but not
really meant for anyone outside the UK.

You would be better off getting a receiver than a computer card
unless you want it for data modes.


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On Tue, 04 May 2004 02:09:41 +0200, Jim Watt <jimwatt@aol.no_way> wrote:

>On 3 May 2004 16:15:43 -0700, manny007@postmaster.co.uk (Manny K)
>wrote:
>
>>Laurence Payne <l@laurenceDELETEpayne.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message news:<b2la90dunhsptbgug96u2uqs3sheupk5ge@4ax.com>...
>>> On Sun, 02 May 2004 13:23:58 GMT, Jan Panteltje
>>> <pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> >BBC world is free on Hotbird 13 east and will give you some biased news.
>>>
>>> Is that the BBC's reputation nowadays?
>>
>>
>>Hmmm...I am not keen on watching news guys, I can find that on net :)
>>I simply miss watching light hearted English channels:) Here in
>>Germany its quite expensive to get TV licence and I am assuming
>>payable cable channels arent cheap either so I am aiming to get a
>>Satellite PC TV card and a satellite dish only with purpose to watch
>>something in English including (Free and legal) sports, comedy
>>channels etc. These satellite cards claim we can watch "free digital
>>channels" so I just wanted some guartee that they do what they say.
>>
>>But thanks a lot to all who replied my request, I really appreciate it
>>:)
>>
>>Manny
>
>Well, officially you can subscribe to BBC Prime, but you need a
>receiver that takes a conditional access card. Comedy but no
>sports. Depending on location, dish size and receiver sensitivity
>you +might+ receive BBC1 ..4 which are free-to-air but not
>really meant for anyone outside the UK.
>
>You would be better off getting a receiver than a computer card
>unless you want it for data modes.

If you refer to the original post you will see that major motivation seems to be
to avoid paying for a German TV license. If the system in that country is the
same as most others in Europe then he will still need a TV license with a
satellite dish.

--
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Live from the sunny Cote d'Azur
 
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On Mon, 03 May 2004 15:08:48 GMT, Jan Panteltje
<pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote:

>>>Officially the US is liberating Iraq.
>>>So much for officially.
>>
>>
>>Officially most European countries are capitalist market economies and
>>are allies with the US.
>>
>>In practice they are closer to the old USSR.
>>
>You means geographically closer.
>Try a dictionary.

No, I mean ideologically.

Get a clue Karl


Sam
 
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On Tue, 04 May 2004 16:36:15 +1000, Sam Richards <me@privacy.net> wrote:

>On Mon, 03 May 2004 15:08:48 GMT, Jan Panteltje
><pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>>>Officially the US is liberating Iraq.
>>>>So much for officially.
>>>
>>>
>>>Officially most European countries are capitalist market economies and
>>>are allies with the US.
>>>
>>>In practice they are closer to the old USSR.
>>>
>>You means geographically closer.
>>Try a dictionary.
>
>No, I mean ideologically.
>
>Get a clue Karl
>
>
>Sam

Whoever you are Sam it looks like you are the one who needs a clue. Do you
actually live in a European country?

--
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Live from the sunny Cote d'Azur
 
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Gegroet,

Op Di, 04 May 2004 08:26:23 +0000, schreef Nigel Barker:
> If you refer to the original post you will see that major motivation
> seems to be
> to avoid paying for a German TV license. If the system in that country
> is the same as most others in Europe then he will still need a TV
> license with a satellite dish.

Question: how much does the TV licence in Germany actually cost?


Cheerio! Kr. Bonne.
--
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H323 VoIP: callto://krbonne.homelinux.net/
[nl] [fr] [en] [de]
 
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Information at www.gez.de
But mine is 48.45EUR a quarter e.g. 130 GBP a year.
And I've got a UK one toofor my telly in the UK.

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> Gegroet,
>
> Op Di, 04 May 2004 08:26:23 +0000, schreef Nigel Barker:
> > If you refer to the original post you will see that major motivation
> > seems to be
> > to avoid paying for a German TV license. If the system in that country
> > is the same as most others in Europe then he will still need a TV
> > license with a satellite dish.
>
> Question: how much does the TV licence in Germany actually cost?
>
>
> Cheerio! Kr. Bonne.
> --
> Kristoff Bonne, Bredene, BEL
> H323 VoIP: callto://krbonne.homelinux.net/
> [nl] [fr] [en] [de]
>
 
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On a sunny day (Tue, 04 May 2004 16:36:15 +1000) it happened Sam Richards
<me@privacy.net> wrote in <c77dkq$ghpo$1@ID-197514.news.uni-berlin.de>:

>On Mon, 03 May 2004 15:08:48 GMT, Jan Panteltje
><pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>>>Officially the US is liberating Iraq.
>>>>So much for officially.
>>>
>>>
>>>Officially most European countries are capitalist market economies and
>>>are allies with the US.
>>>
>>>In practice they are closer to the old USSR.
>>>
>>You means geographically closer.
>>Try a dictionary.
>
>No, I mean ideologically.
>
>Get a clue Karl
>
>
>Sam
Jewish or American or just simply misinformed?
 
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On a sunny day (Tue, 04 May 2004 08:26:23 GMT) it happened Nigel Barker
<nigel@hp.com> wrote in <hdje901qm480dlc0too07f1fjae30mmffa@4ax.com>:

>On Tue, 04 May 2004 02:09:41 +0200, Jim Watt <jimwatt@aol.no_way> wrote:
>
>>On 3 May 2004 16:15:43 -0700, manny007@postmaster.co.uk (Manny K)
>>wrote:
>>
>>>Laurence Payne <l@laurenceDELETEpayne.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message news:<b2la90dunhsptbgug96u2uqs3sheupk5ge@4ax.com>...
>>>> On Sun, 02 May 2004 13:23:58 GMT, Jan Panteltje
>>>> <pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> >BBC world is free on Hotbird 13 east and will give you some biased news.
>>>>
>>>> Is that the BBC's reputation nowadays?
>>>
>>>
>>>Hmmm...I am not keen on watching news guys, I can find that on net :)
>>>I simply miss watching light hearted English channels:) Here in
>>>Germany its quite expensive to get TV licence and I am assuming
>>>payable cable channels arent cheap either so I am aiming to get a
>>>Satellite PC TV card and a satellite dish only with purpose to watch
>>>something in English including (Free and legal) sports, comedy
>>>channels etc. These satellite cards claim we can watch "free digital
>>>channels" so I just wanted some guartee that they do what they say.
>>>
>>>But thanks a lot to all who replied my request, I really appreciate it
>>>:)
>>>
>>>Manny
>>
>>Well, officially you can subscribe to BBC Prime, but you need a
>>receiver that takes a conditional access card. Comedy but no
>>sports. Depending on location, dish size and receiver sensitivity
>>you +might+ receive BBC1 ..4 which are free-to-air but not
>>really meant for anyone outside the UK.
>>
>>You would be better off getting a receiver than a computer card
>>unless you want it for data modes.
>
>If you refer to the original post you will see that major motivation seems to be
>to avoid paying for a German TV license. If the system in that country is the
>same as most others in Europe then he will still need a TV license with a
>satellite dish.
Well, in the Netherlands you need no license anymore.
thats one country.
As for the PC card versus stand alone sat reciever that was an other stupid
argument.
I have used the SkyStar 1 PCI card for now many years (this is my second),
and the simple fact that you can record transport stream with say 8 audio
channels, or 4 Video channels with sound from the same transponder, useful
if there is a movie you want on 2 stations at the same time, is worth gold.
Add a DVD burner, Linux as OS and you have your own multilanguage DVDs
The quality is the same as the original mpeg2 in the multiplex, unlike
if you tried to feed it into a mpeg2 coder card (via composite).
Also I can come in and watch time-shifted if the recording was started and I
came late.
A 160GB harddisk holds about 70 to 80 hours or more (27000 symbolrate).
Only objection is the PC needs to be on, but here it is always on as it is
running a webserver at the same time, playing mp3, programming what not.
The SkyStar1 has a video out (you can also pick RGB from a connector), so
your beamer or large TV can be connected.
So, find a PC card with video out, but of cause TV is also cool on a good
19 Inch CRT.
As for the encrypted channels I say softdecoder.
I do not watch BBC Prime a lot, always auctions and home decoration, and
Black Adder I noticed lately.
But for the OP this is what he wants likely.
Anyways, I dunno how I know what is on BBC Prime ;-)
Much more interesting are the secret CIA links.
JP
 
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On Tue, 04 May 2004 08:21:15 GMT, Nigel Barker <nigel@hp.com> wrote:

>>>>>Officially the US is liberating Iraq.
>>>>>So much for officially.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Officially most European countries are capitalist market economies and
>>>>are allies with the US.
>>>>
>>>>In practice they are closer to the old USSR.
>>>>
>>>You means geographically closer.
>>>Try a dictionary.
>>
>>No, I mean ideologically.
>>
>>Get a clue Karl
>>
>>
>>Sam
>
>Whoever you are Sam it looks like you are the one who needs a clue. Do you
>actually live in a European country?

No I am not.

But please enlighten me about how right wing most European countries
are.

Most of them have massive support in the polls for communist,
socialist or Green (same thing) parties.

They are all incredibly anti-war no matter the reason (another left
agenda), which is funny for a place which seems to start all of them.
They have let at least two massive genocides occur right in the middle
of "civilised" Europe in a space of 50 years. They would have done
nothing to stop both of them occurring if it was not for the USA.

France and Germany were against the Iraq war we find out because they
were benefiting massively from the "oil for food" program

And no, I am not from the USA.

Sam
 
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