Say Hello to AMD's New Generation of Graphics

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Honis

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"AMD's Hawaii silicon brings the R7 250, R7 260X, R9 270X, R9 280X, R9 290, and R9 290X to market"

It was my understanding that 290s were a new chip and not a refresh like the other 200 series.

From the first paragraph of Chris' review of the lower cards:
"...upcoming Radeon R9 290 and 290X, based on fresh silicon..."
 

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Why go with more obscure codes, that doesn't fix the problem, it just shuffles the order of the confusing variables around for less techy people.

Go with something that makes sense..why r7 and r9? whats the r for? what does 7 relate to, or 9 for that fact? (People that are tech savvy can figure out what card is what pretty easy, but ask my wife which is better a R7 250, R9 290, and R9 290X and get a blank stare).
Why not codes like B,G and E (budget, gaming, and enthusiast or such)
THEN ask my wife 'which is more powerful, a B250 or a G290" after 5 seconds of telling her what B,G, and E stand for, even she could tell you which is better.
 

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Its been almost 2 years since AMD released a new chip. When are we getting a new architecture from this company?

With the slow improvements to their drivers as far as micro stuttering go I think anyone would be mad to buy into AMD GPUs right now.

I have had many ATI GPUs in the past but really this is an incredibly dull launch and we have waited nearly 2 years for this.
 

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"Say Hello to AMD's New Generation of Graphics" says the title...

then the body says... "AMD's Hawaii silicon not brings new cards but a new naming scheme."

My head ache.
 

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@Honis, it's right what he wrote. He is saying besides the name the announcement of the Hawaii Silicon it brings those new cards(or re-brands to be more accurate).
 

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I don't think the naming scheme is any better. There are still 4 numbers to deal with and a letter. R7 vs R9, 250 vs. 260, and 260 vs 260X. Overall I preferred the old number system. I am not sure why anyone is making a big deal about releasing old silicon with a new name, both companies have been doing this for years. I mean look at Apple and the 5C.... I am excited to see the review for the new cards
 

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Mains reason for this naming is that this is in same way as AMD CPU A10, A8 and so on are named... Does it make much sense... maybe in the longer run...

I by my self am a "little" bit dissappointed that the naming was not:
R9 290X
R9 290
R9 180X
R9 180
R9 170
R7 160X
and so on, so that the first number after gategory number would mean the generation of the GPU... Because 290X and 290 are new generation, thats why 2XX name.
280 and so on are previous generation, so the name should have starter with 1xx, but that would have made too much sense... would it?

 

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Either way you're explaining. Besides explaining 9 is higher than 7 is more straightforward than letters that seem arbitrary until they are explained. Ignoring the 'R' because it's a brand designation nothing more, and saying "7 and 9 are two families, and the higher the number, the better the card" isn't that difficult. Not sure the importance of the X yet though, so I can't speak to how that complicates things.
 

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True, and they still leave the mystery of whats an old chip, or new chip in there either way.
Seems if a company is smart enough to make video cards, they could come up with a simple naming that doesn't require a spreadsheet and slide ruler to figure out which is actually newer faster generation chip by its numerical name vs a last model rebranded as budget in the new lineup with the same number scheme but now labeled a r7[something](which was an r9[something] last year to start with)
 


Your right the 290 and 290x are the only cards using the new Hawaii silicon the others are the same last gen "Tahiti" silicon.
 

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"We heard whisperings of an October 8 release/NDA expiration and it looks like those rumors were true. The reviews are here"

Umm, no...We are just reading 7970ghz with new names. Hawaii is NOT HERE, and there are NO REVIEWS here of Hawaii...ROFL. Get back to me when a HAWAII REVIEW is up.
 

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It has a lot to do with the fabs, and die shrink yeilds. I really believe we'll be seeing the R 300 series sometime around 2 qtr 2014 though, because they have lost huge gaps in pricing.

Big hint is the 280 x at $300, you'll find them at around 250 with rebates in a couple of months, and probably 230 ish, in 6-7 months, what's gonna happen to the 300 -500 range ? New gpu releases with the new die shrink. This is a short term answer to Nvidia, and a way for them to bring prices down, create more sales and bring the newest feature sets.
 

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I think we can assume that R7 is just a shortening of radeon 7000. but why do they jump from R7 to R9? what happened to R8? what does the X signify that can't be conveyed in the number scheme? why 290X and not simply 300? and why does the 3 digit name have continuity between the Rx's? if there's only one 260 and one 270, then why do they need the Rx indicator?
 
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