News Scam the Scalpers? eBay Vigilantes Are Selling Pics of RTX 3060 Tis

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I am delaying purchases until the supply chain issues shake out... has anyone seen CAPTCHA used on any retail sites as a bot deterrent?

I've heard all the rhetoric from retailers about deterring bots, but I'm curious if they have actually taken that simple logical step. If not, then why not?

That being asked/said, I have not changed my stance on pricing... I would rather see those profits go to nVidia, AMD, etc., rather than to scalpers. Starting high on MSRP and dropping it weekly would have had a big effect on availability for those in dire need, as long as the declination schedule and final low MSRP price/date are set in stone. Still, it is hard to predict demand in these odd times, so maybe less effective than I think.
 
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You want to stop scalpers? Don't buy from listings on eBay, or from any reseller. These resellers can't buy all the stock and when they've no more money to invest in cards that aren't selling, stock at e-tailers and retailers will be available. Then the scalpers get stuck with a bunch of cards that no one wants to buy. The consumer makes scalping profitable when they are too impatient or stupid to wait it out. Sure the benchmarks look good, but if you buy these cards at inflated prices from scalpers then you are part of the problem. More money than sense so to speak.

TL;DR DON"T BUY FROM RESELLERS AT INFLATED PRICES YOU IDIOTS!
 

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I've never used a bot before, but if they can already scan for Geforce 3060 auctions on ebay and autobuy something wouldn't it be equally as easy to put in a list of words to blacklist?

"Paper card, picture only, only picture, for bots to buy"
 

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It seems like slowing down the interface to human speed would place the bots on equal footing as humans. For example, if the fastest a human can click through the buttons is 10 seconds, then anything faster than 10 seconds is likely a bot. If the interface was then slowed down such that the fastest a bot or human could get through was 30 seconds, then the humans would at least not be at a speed disadvantage.

I realize that no one wants to intentionally slow things down, but ultimately bots are going to be better than humans at everything.
 

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It seems like slowing down the interface to human speed would place the bots on equal footing as humans. For example, if the fastest a human can click through the buttons is 10 seconds, then anything faster than 10 seconds is likely a bot. If the interface was then slowed down such that the fastest a bot or human could get through was 30 seconds, then the humans would at least not be at a speed disadvantage.

I realize that no one wants to intentionally slow things down, but ultimately bots are going to be better than humans at everything.
The problem is that these sneaker bot scum already have the links to directly add the item into their cart. The bots are also up 24/7 while us humans can't and have to work to pay for these things... There's also captcha farms in India that get through captcha in no time flat. In other words, the only way to make a level playing field is to force store pickup only or do what Apple does and allow a queue for up to several months such as the AirPods Max...
 

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Okay. So where are all the server GPU scalpers and scammers at? Nvidia says B2B sales are just fine, but consumer products are always buried under corporations. They're probably the reason for this and the scalping scamming bull is the scapegoat.
 

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eBay? Have bots? Never. Say it isn't so. Say it isn't so that hundreds of thousands of low feedback accounts exist only to bump up auction prices. Jeff, from Italy (despite the auction stating U.K. only) bids, with only 2 feedback, only to message to say that he'd had a bike accident (forcing me to apply strict rules to ANY auction). It's not that this doesn't happen over and over again or anything.

Kind of like DJI drones rising in price during the U.K. lock down?!? Lots and lots of low feedback accounts going to town at that point (I watched. I looked. I witnessed the trend).

Oh well.
 

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It would be interesting for Toms to do a value analysis of the new cards at the estimated ebay market values.

How does your current card stand up then?

Really the answer is wait to out the scammers/scalpers - don't buy new goods on a secondary market. This is not a World Cup Soccer Game, or a one-of-a-kind piece of art, everyone willing to pay msrp will eventually have the chance to buy one.

Prepaid queuing direct from the manufacturers sites seem like a good idea to me. For a company like nVidia retailers seem like an anachronism.

Not sure the so-called board partners add much either. Maybe they should be controlling their sales directly at least for Titan/90 series level products. NVidia pop-up stores in top 75 worldwide markets plus online.
 

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AMD and Nvdia ought to license their sales to the first retail buyer only, with a condition that they may not be resold for 90 days after purchase, then sue eBay.
 

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It's entirely way to difficult to acquire an Nvidia GPU. I applaud the people screwing with scalpers, but I can't help but be ticked off at Nvidia constantly promoting and giving away -- to influencers, celebrities, streamers -- 30-series cards us normal people can't buy. I don't work for free, and sitting around refreshing a website all day long is work.
 
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Facing silence and empty promises from manufacturers and official platforms, some tech enthusiasts are running eBay scams targeting bots instead of people.

Scam the Scalpers? eBay Vigilantes Are Selling Pics of RTX 3060 Tis : Read more
Why is it that the authorities, the overseers, the watchers of these commerce websites do not appear to be concerned with the presence of scalpers, or in the least, they appear to take no action to remove scalpers from their sites, or implement mechanisms to circumvent this major issue? Without any announcement from the website, and failing to provide any public display of action being performed to resolve this issue, inevitably like the average citizens in vigilante justice, average users will take action into their own hands to eliminate the undesirables, whether it be specific users, or behavior. Yet, that is not acceptable, and further, it has prompted a swift reaction from Ashley Settle in regards to removing the vigilante listings that only exist to combat the scalpers on the site!!! Instead, the imbeciles running the site allow scalpers, or at least are incredibly slow in reacting to their presence, but decent users who are merely attempt to rid the site of nefarious people, so it can return back to a state of normalcy are confronted immediately by Ashley's Actions!!! It appears that ebay is attempting to transmit a loud and clear message to its customers that they don't really give a large clump of fecal matter about their users!!!
 

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Why is it that the authorities, the overseers, the watchers of these commerce websites do not appear to be concerned with the presence of scalpers, or in the least, they appear to take no action to remove scalpers from their sites, or implement mechanisms to circumvent this major issue? Without any announcement from the website, and failing to provide any public display of action being performed to resolve this issue, inevitably like the average citizens in vigilante justice, average users will take action into their own hands to eliminate the undesirables, whether it be specific users, or behavior. Yet, that is not acceptable, and further, it has prompted a swift reaction from Ashley Settle in regards to removing the vigilante listings that only exist to combat the scalpers on the site!!! Instead, the imbeciles running the site allow scalpers, or at least are incredibly slow in reacting to their presence, but decent users who are merely attempt to rid the site of nefarious people, so it can return back to a state of normalcy are confronted immediately by Ashley's Actions!!! It appears that ebay is attempting to transmit a loud and clear message to its customers that they don't really give a large clump of fecal matter about their users!!!
But you know what would send an even stronger message to the Scalpers and Bots? People need to use self restraint and don't buy from them. Let them sit on their inventory. Unfortunately there are way too many out there with little restraint who have stimulus money burning a hole in their pockets.

I've been trying to buy a Playstation 5 and refuse to go the scalper route. I purchased an Xbox Series X directly from Walmart. I needed to upgrade my PC gaming rig from top to bottom and refused to buy an RTX 3080 card for $2,450. So I bought an HP Omen 30L directly from Amazon that included an RTX 3080 GPU for 2199.

If there were more of us then Scalpers and Bots would be discouraged and you would see less of them on Ebay and other sites preying on those who have no restraint.
 

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