scanning in 8mm film

[stewart]

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I am looking to buy a camera that can film my old 8mm films while they are
being projected onto a screen and then transfer the image to a movie editing
programme in the computer. I know that I can copy them onto vhs if I film
at 25 frames per second but would prefer to go straight into digital.
Jessops suggested that the fujifim finepix F7 10 would do this as well as
being a good digital camera to buy but I notice that the movie option films
at 30 frames per second. My projector works at 16 frames per second.
Has anyone had success in doing this?
I sent a trial reel off to have it commercially transferred to vhs but it
came back far too dark.
Thank you.

 

[Guest]

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On Thu, 15 Jul 2004 16:52:58 +0100, "Stewart" <twoduncans@hotmail.com> found
these unused words floating about:

>I am looking to buy a camera that can film my old 8mm films while they are
>being projected onto a screen and then transfer the image to a movie editing
>programme in the computer. I know that I can copy them onto vhs if I film
>at 25 frames per second but would prefer to go straight into digital.
>Jessops suggested that the fujifim finepix F7 10 would do this as well as
>being a good digital camera to buy but I notice that the movie option films
>at 30 frames per second. My projector works at 16 frames per second.
>Has anyone had success in doing this?
>I sent a trial reel off to have it commercially transferred to vhs but it
>came back far too dark.
>Thank you.
>
The problem is that the film projector has a rotating blade shutter. Unless
the camera is sync'd with that, you'll have flicker.

You could try any digital camera that has a direct signal output to
computer.

Play with mutliple captures and perhaps edit together the least bothersome.

 

[bill]

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In article <cd6973$7jj$1@newsg1.svr.pol.co.uk>,
"Stewart" <twoduncans@hotmail.com> wrote:

> I am looking to buy a camera that can film my old 8mm films while they are
> being projected onto a screen and then transfer the image to a movie editing
> programme in the computer. I know that I can copy them onto vhs if I film
> at 25 frames per second but would prefer to go straight into digital.
> Jessops suggested that the fujifim finepix F7 10 would do this as well as
> being a good digital camera to buy but I notice that the movie option films
> at 30 frames per second. My projector works at 16 frames per second.
> Has anyone had success in doing this?
> I sent a trial reel off to have it commercially transferred to vhs but it
> came back far too dark.

NTSC TV works at 30 fps. Don't understand where you found a 25fps
camcorder. Or do you mean projecting at 24fps, which is the standard
speed for sound film?

I've done this with a digital camcorder and got fair results but with a
notiiceable flicker. I attribute that to the fact that the slowest
shutter speed on the camera is 1/60th of a second, so it can catch the
blackout the projector does while pulling down. Does anyone know if
there is a digital camcorder available with a 1/30 speed?

 

[Guest]

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"Stewart" <twoduncans@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:cd6973$7jj$1@newsg1.svr.pol.co.uk...
> I am looking to buy a camera that can film my old 8mm films while they are
> being projected onto a screen and then transfer the image to a movie
editing
> programme in the computer. I know that I can copy them onto vhs if I film
> at 25 frames per second but would prefer to go straight into digital.
> Jessops suggested that the fujifim finepix F7 10 would do this as well as
> being a good digital camera to buy but I notice that the movie option
films
> at 30 frames per second. My projector works at 16 frames per second.
> Has anyone had success in doing this?
> I sent a trial reel off to have it commercially transferred to vhs but it
> came back far too dark.
> Thank you.
>
Ambico Telecine Film to Video Transfer System

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This machine requires a working film projector and a video camera. Digital
video camera is OK.
Search for "Video Transfer System"

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[Guest]

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On Thu, 15 Jul 2004 14:51:45 -0400, Bill <ws21@cornell.edu> found these
unused words floating about:

>In article <cd6973$7jj$1@newsg1.svr.pol.co.uk>,
> "Stewart" <twoduncans@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I am looking to buy a camera that can film my old 8mm films while they are
>> being projected onto a screen and then transfer the image to a movie editing
>> programme in the computer. I know that I can copy them onto vhs if I film
>> at 25 frames per second but would prefer to go straight into digital.
>> Jessops suggested that the fujifim finepix F7 10 would do this as well as
>> being a good digital camera to buy but I notice that the movie option films
>> at 30 frames per second. My projector works at 16 frames per second.
>> Has anyone had success in doing this?
>> I sent a trial reel off to have it commercially transferred to vhs but it
>> came back far too dark.
>
>NTSC TV works at 30 fps. Don't understand where you found a 25fps
>camcorder. Or do you mean projecting at 24fps, which is the standard
>speed for sound film?

As his post says UK ... !

Pal system ... 25 "Fps" 50 Hz interlaced imagery.

>I've done this with a digital camcorder and got fair results but with a
>notiiceable flicker. I attribute that to the fact that the slowest
>shutter speed on the camera is 1/60th of a second, so it can catch the
>blackout the projector does while pulling down. Does anyone know if
>there is a digital camcorder available with a 1/30 speed?

Yes, several including the Panasonic DVX100

 

[stewart]

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Thanks to all; Bill, I used my brothers digital camcorder earlier this year
and thought it was filming at 25 fps, his camera showed a slow speed setting
but I would bave to be check to be sure, perhaps it was 30fps.
I went to Jessops on Wednesday and they assured me that there is no problem
in buying a camera (either camcorder or digital with short movie capacity)
that would film at 30fps; for example the Canon MVX250i or the Fujifilm
finepix F710 Zoom.
I have many 8mm films of my children and others when they were young and now
I am trying to copy them onto dvd or cd so that each of them can have a
record.

"Bill" <ws21@cornell.edu> wrote in message
news:ws21-72471A.14514515072004@newsstand.cit.cornell.edu...
> In article <cd6973$7jj$1@newsg1.svr.pol.co.uk>,
> "Stewart" <twoduncans@hotmail.com> wrote:
<snip>
> NTSC TV works at 30 fps. Don't understand where you found a 25fps
> camcorder. Or do you mean projecting at 24fps, which is the standard
> speed for sound film?
>
> I've done this with a digital camcorder and got fair results but with a
> notiiceable flicker. I attribute that to the fact that the slowest
> shutter speed on the camera is 1/60th of a second, so it can catch the
> blackout the projector does while pulling down. Does anyone know if
> there is a digital camcorder available with a 1/30 speed?

 

[Guest]

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On Fri, 16 Jul 2004 11:37:49 +0100, "Stewart" <twoduncans@hotmail.com> found
these unused words floating about:

>Thanks to all; Bill, I used my brothers digital camcorder earlier this year
>and thought it was filming at 25 fps, his camera showed a slow speed setting
>but I would bave to be check to be sure, perhaps it was 30fps.
>I went to Jessops on Wednesday and they assured me that there is no problem
>in buying a camera (either camcorder or digital with short movie capacity)
>that would film at 30fps; for example the Canon MVX250i or the Fujifilm
>finepix F710 Zoom.
>I have many 8mm films of my children and others when they were young and now
>I am trying to copy them onto dvd or cd so that each of them can have a
>record.
>
Most film cameras (8 & 16 mm) use either 16, 18 or the 'normal' 24 FPS.

That's why, for NTSC F2V they use a 5 bladed shutter syncro timed to give
exposures as:

A:A:A:B:B:C:C:C😀😀:E:E:E:F:F etc.

 

[bill]

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In article <ijuff0p3fqig7glgp2lidm435m3beadnm7@4ax.com>,
J. A. Mc. <jaSPAMc@gbr.online.com> wrote:

> Does anyone know if
> >there is a digital camcorder available with a 1/30 speed?
>
> Yes, several including the Panasonic DVX100

Excellent choice for those who have $3000 lying around...

 

[bill]

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In article <cd8b4d$otl$1@newsg2.svr.pol.co.uk>,
"Stewart" <twoduncans@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks to all; Bill, I used my brothers digital camcorder earlier this year
> and thought it was filming at 25 fps, his camera showed a slow speed setting
> but I would bave to be check to be sure, perhaps it was 30fps.

See the other post about the difference between American and British
systems.