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This question were suggested by "Schott's Food & Drink
Miscellany" by Ben Schott.

Name the culture or country associated with the bread:

bangeli
bannock
bara brith
boxty
brioche
daktyla
hornazo
huffkin
julekage
man to
mandelbrot
mankoush
pagnotta
pideh
pistolet
poori
rieska
rosquilha
sumsums
 
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Jim Ward wrote:

> This question were suggested by "Schott's Food & Drink
> Miscellany" by Ben Schott.
>
> Name the culture or country associated with the bread:

> bannock

Scotland

> bara brith

Wales

> boxty

Ireland?

> brioche

France

> poori

India

--
Keith Willoughby http://flat222.org/keith/
"Most of my heroes don't appear on a stamp"
 
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Somebody claiming to be Jim Ward <tomcatpolka@NyOaShPoAoM.com> wrote in
news:9h74s09iua0tfp6qb09l5u5qmjuuhq326a@4ax.com:

> This question were suggested by "Schott's Food & Drink
> Miscellany" by Ben Schott.
>
> Name the culture or country associated with the bread:
>
> bangeli
> bannock
> bara brith
> boxty
> brioche
> daktyla

I think this is Greek

> hornazo
> huffkin
> julekage

Sounds like one of the Scandinavian countries. Danish?

> man to
> mandelbrot

German for "Almond bread", although I have a feeling somebody's going to
claim it's not German but Yiddish.

> mankoush
> pagnotta
> pideh
> pistolet

Russian

> poori
> rieska

Sounds like a Finnish name

> rosquilha

Portuguese or Brazilian

> sumsums



--
Ted <fedya at bestweb dot net>
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"Ted S." schrieb:
> Somebody claiming to be Jim Ward <tomcatpolka@NyOaShPoAoM.com> wrote in
> > Name the culture or country associated with the bread:

> > mandelbrot
>
> German for "Almond bread", although I have a feeling somebody's going to
> claim it's not German but Yiddish.

Actually, what I first and foremost associate with this one is the
culture of mathematicians studying nonlinear dynamic systems.

It seems to be impossible to fashion a google query to remove all
references to the inedible kind of mandelbrot from a German google
search. The best I could do is
http://www.google.de/search?q=mandelbrot+-menge+-benoit+-fraktal+-set+-julia+-fractals+-Mandelbrotmenge+-mathematik+-wissenschaften&meta=lr%3Dlang_de

The Obpuzzle is to a) find a shorter query that works equally well or b)
find a query that works better without excluding bread links.

Cheers
Michael
--
Still an attentive ear he lent Her speech hath caused this pain
But could not fathom what she meant Easier I count it to explain
She was not deep, nor eloquent. The jargon of the howling main
-- from Lewis Carroll: The Three Usenet Trolls
 
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"Michael Mendelsohn" <invalid@msgid.michael.mendelsohn.de> wrote in message
news:41C2CF02.2684DA24@msgid.michael.mendelsohn.de...
> "Ted S." schrieb:
> > Somebody claiming to be Jim Ward <tomcatpolka@NyOaShPoAoM.com> wrote in
> > > Name the culture or country associated with the bread:
>
> > > mandelbrot
> >
> > German for "Almond bread", although I have a feeling somebody's going to
> > claim it's not German but Yiddish.
>
> Actually, what I first and foremost associate with this one is the
> culture of mathematicians studying nonlinear dynamic systems.
>
> It seems to be impossible to fashion a google query to remove all
> references to the inedible kind of mandelbrot from a German google
> search. The best I could do is
>
http://www.google.de/search?q=mandelbrot+-menge+-benoit+-fraktal+-set+-julia+-fractals+-Mandelbrotmenge+-mathematik+-wissenschaften&meta=lr%3Dlang_de

This one seems to work pretty well:

http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&as_qdr=all&q=mandelbrot+%7Ebread+-benoit+-fractal

Slightly fewer hits than yours (I get 9790 to your 12000), but a lot
shorter.

Danny
 
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"Danny Kodicek" <usenet@well-spring.co.uk> wrote in message
news😛qAwd.87$_B3.73@newsfe5-win.ntli.net...
>
> "Michael Mendelsohn" <invalid@msgid.michael.mendelsohn.de> wrote in
message
> news:41C2CF02.2684DA24@msgid.michael.mendelsohn.de...
> > "Ted S." schrieb:
> > > Somebody claiming to be Jim Ward <tomcatpolka@NyOaShPoAoM.com> wrote
in
> > > > Name the culture or country associated with the bread:
> >
> > > > mandelbrot
> > >
> > > German for "Almond bread", although I have a feeling somebody's going
to
> > > claim it's not German but Yiddish.
> >
> > Actually, what I first and foremost associate with this one is the
> > culture of mathematicians studying nonlinear dynamic systems.
> >
> > It seems to be impossible to fashion a google query to remove all
> > references to the inedible kind of mandelbrot from a German google
> > search. The best I could do is
> >
>
http://www.google.de/search?q=mandelbrot+-menge+-benoit+-fraktal+-set+-julia+-fractals+-Mandelbrotmenge+-mathematik+-wissenschaften&meta=lr%3Dlang_de
>
> This one seems to work pretty well:
>
>
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&as_qdr=all&q=mandelbrot+%7Ebread+-benoit+-fractal
>
> Slightly fewer hits than yours (I get 9790 to your 12000), but a lot
> shorter.

Knew I could improve it:

Here we go:
http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=mandelbrot+(~bread+OR+brot)+-benoit+-fractal

5 search terms, and 14000 entries. Sampling through them I didn't turn up
any mathematical ones, although I'm sure a few will have slipped through
(with something like 'the mandelbrot set, which looks like a gingerbread
man'). I think your query is likely to fall down on the word 'set' - after
all, many recipes call for you to 'set the dough aside', for example.

Danny
 
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"Jim Ward" <tomcatpolka@NyOaShPoAoM.com> wrote in message
news:9h74s09iua0tfp6qb09l5u5qmjuuhq326a@4ax.com...
> This question were suggested by "Schott's Food & Drink
> Miscellany" by Ben Schott.
>
> Name the culture or country associated with the bread:
>
> bangeli
> bannock

Associated with the fur trade - French Canadian / Native North Americans /
Hudson Bay Co

> bara brith
> boxty
> brioche
> daktyla
> hornazo
> huffkin
> julekage
> man to
> mandelbrot
> mankoush
> pagnotta
> pideh
> pistolet
> poori
> rieska
> rosquilha
> sumsums
 
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Danny Kodicek schrieb:
> "Michael Mendelsohn" <invalid@msgid.michael.mendelsohn.de> wrote in message
> news:41C2CF02.2684DA24@msgid.michael.mendelsohn.de...
> > "Ted S." schrieb:
> > > Somebody claiming to be Jim Ward <tomcatpolka@NyOaShPoAoM.com> wrote in
> > > > Name the culture or country associated with the bread:
> >
> > > > mandelbrot
> > >
> > > German for "Almond bread", although I have a feeling somebody's going to
> > > claim it's not German but Yiddish.
> >
> > Actually, what I first and foremost associate with this one is the
> > culture of mathematicians studying nonlinear dynamic systems.
> >
> > It seems to be impossible to fashion a google query to remove all
> > references to the inedible kind of mandelbrot from a German google
> > search. The best I could do is
> >
> http://www.google.de/search?q=mandelbrot+-menge+-benoit+-fraktal+-set+-julia+-fractals+-Mandelbrotmenge+-mathematik+-wissenschaften&meta=lr%3Dlang_de
>
> This one seems to work pretty well:
>
> http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&as_qdr=all&q=mandelbrot+%7Ebread+-benoit+-fractal
>
> Slightly fewer hits than yours (I get 9790 to your 12000), but a lot
> shorter.

A *German* search for "mandelbrot ~brot" gets 6230 hits.
The idea of adding a positive term is splendid, however, I can't be sure
that this doesn't exclude some mandelbrot recipes.

Thanks!
Michael
--
Still an attentive ear he lent Her speech hath caused this pain
But could not fathom what she meant Easier I count it to explain
She was not deep, nor eloquent. The jargon of the howling main
-- from Lewis Carroll: The Three Usenet Trolls
 
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On Fri, 17 Dec 2004 18:03:39 +0100, Michael Mendelsohn
<invalid@msgid.michael.mendelsohn.de> wrote:

>Danny Kodicek schrieb:
>> "Michael Mendelsohn" <invalid@msgid.michael.mendelsohn.de> wrote in message
>> news:41C2CF02.2684DA24@msgid.michael.mendelsohn.de...
>> > "Ted S." schrieb:
>> > > Somebody claiming to be Jim Ward <tomcatpolka@NyOaShPoAoM.com> wrote in
>> > > > Name the culture or country associated with the bread:
>> >
>> > > > mandelbrot
>> > >
>> > > German for "Almond bread", although I have a feeling somebody's going to
>> > > claim it's not German but Yiddish.
>> >
>> > Actually, what I first and foremost associate with this one is the
>> > culture of mathematicians studying nonlinear dynamic systems.
>> >
>> > It seems to be impossible to fashion a google query to remove all
>> > references to the inedible kind of mandelbrot from a German google
>> > search. The best I could do is
>> >
>> http://www.google.de/search?q=mandelbrot+-menge+-benoit+-fraktal+-set+-julia+-fractals+-Mandelbrotmenge+-mathematik+-wissenschaften&meta=lr%3Dlang_de
>>
>> This one seems to work pretty well:
>>
>> http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&as_qdr=all&q=mandelbrot+%7Ebread+-benoit+-fractal
>>
>> Slightly fewer hits than yours (I get 9790 to your 12000), but a lot
>> shorter.
>
>A *German* search for "mandelbrot ~brot" gets 6230 hits.
>The idea of adding a positive term is splendid, however, I can't be sure
>that this doesn't exclude some mandelbrot recipes.
>
>Thanks!
>Michael

Mandelbrot +recipe -fractal got me 5260 hits. The first one that I
could spot as non-food related was at 150--a Python page referring to
developing a coding recipe involving Mandelbrot sets.
 
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Danny Kodicek schrieb:
> Knew I could improve it:
>
> Here we go:
> http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=mandelbrot+(~bread+OR+brot)+-benoit+-fractal
>
> 5 search terms, and 14000 entries. Sampling through them I didn't turn up
> any mathematical ones, although I'm sure a few will have slipped through
> (with something like 'the mandelbrot set, which looks like a gingerbread
> man'). I think your query is likely to fall down on the word 'set' - after
> all, many recipes call for you to 'set the dough aside', for example.

I queried German entries only, and "Set" is a German word for "placemat"
and quite uncommonly used.

Cheers
Michael
--
Still an attentive ear he lent Her speech hath caused this pain
But could not fathom what she meant Easier I count it to explain
She was not deep, nor eloquent. The jargon of the howling main
-- from Lewis Carroll: The Three Usenet Trolls
 
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"Michael Mendelsohn" <invalid@msgid.michael.mendelsohn.de> wrote in message
news:41C3116B.B2D96279@msgid.michael.mendelsohn.de...
> Danny Kodicek schrieb:
> > "Michael Mendelsohn" <invalid@msgid.michael.mendelsohn.de> wrote in
message
> > news:41C2CF02.2684DA24@msgid.michael.mendelsohn.de...
> > > "Ted S." schrieb:
> > > > Somebody claiming to be Jim Ward <tomcatpolka@NyOaShPoAoM.com> wrote
in
> > > > > Name the culture or country associated with the bread:
> > >
> > > > > mandelbrot
> > > >
> > > > German for "Almond bread", although I have a feeling somebody's
going to
> > > > claim it's not German but Yiddish.
> > >
> > > Actually, what I first and foremost associate with this one is the
> > > culture of mathematicians studying nonlinear dynamic systems.
> > >
> > > It seems to be impossible to fashion a google query to remove all
> > > references to the inedible kind of mandelbrot from a German google
> > > search. The best I could do is
> > >
> >
http://www.google.de/search?q=mandelbrot+-menge+-benoit+-fraktal+-set+-julia+-fractals+-Mandelbrotmenge+-mathematik+-wissenschaften&meta=lr%3Dlang_de
> >
> > This one seems to work pretty well:
> >
> >
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&as_qdr=all&q=mandelbrot+%7Ebread+-benoit+-fractal
> >
> > Slightly fewer hits than yours (I get 9790 to your 12000), but a lot
> > shorter.
>
> A *German* search for "mandelbrot ~brot" gets 6230 hits.
> The idea of adding a positive term is splendid, however, I can't be sure
> that this doesn't exclude some mandelbrot recipes.

How well does the synonym operator work for German words? The English search
picked up synonyms like 'baking', so it's quite loose - certainly enough to
catch the vast majority of the English-language sites, I'd imagine.

Danny
 
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On Fri, 17 Dec 2004 02:36:29 -0000, "Ted S." <fedya@bestweb.spam>
wrote:

>> daktyla
>
>I think this is Greek

Schott agrees.

>> julekage
>
>Sounds like one of the Scandinavian countries. Danish?

Schott agrees.

>> pistolet
>
>Russian

Schott says Belgian.

>> rieska
>
>Sounds like a Finnish name

Schott agrees.

>> rosquilha
>
>Portuguese or Brazilian

Schott says Portuguese.

Keith Willoughby's guesses were all correct, which leaves:

bangeli - Swiss
hornazo - Spanish
huffkin - English
man to - Chinese
mankoush - Lebanese
pagnotta - Italian
pideh - Armenian
sumsums - Jewish

He says boxy is a potato bread, traditionally eaten on New Year's Day:

"Boxty on the griddle, boxty in the pan,
If you can't make boxty, you'll never get a man!"
 
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