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I have an AT7 and recently my screen graphics and characters have started to
become wiggly. It is a progression, since when I first boot up into Win2k
everything looks fine but the longer my computer runs the more distortion
occurs. It could be my monitor, my video adapter, my AGP slot, or some new
virus my system may have received somehow. My best guess is my video adapter
which is quite old and needs to be updated anyway. Has anyone else
experienced this who may have a good idea what the usual cause of it is ?
 
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Edward Diener wrote:
> I have an AT7 and recently my screen graphics and characters
> have started to become wiggly.

I have a Trident card (9750?) that does that when running CPU
intensive apps. But it's not progressive...
 
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Does your monitor have On Screen Display (OSD)?

If it does then it will wiggle too if the monitor is faulty. If OSD
graphics doesn't wiggle then it's the video card.

Based on failure probability alone, it is more likely to be the
monitor then the video card.

Forrest

Motherboard Help By HAL web site:
http://home.comcast.net/~hal-9000/


On Wed, 21 Apr 2004 16:01:21 GMT, "Edward Diener"
<eldiener@earthlink.net> wrote:

>I have an AT7 and recently my screen graphics and characters have started to
>become wiggly. It is a progression, since when I first boot up into Win2k
>everything looks fine but the longer my computer runs the more distortion
>occurs. It could be my monitor, my video adapter, my AGP slot, or some new
>virus my system may have received somehow. My best guess is my video adapter
>which is quite old and needs to be updated anyway. Has anyone else
>experienced this who may have a good idea what the usual cause of it is ?
>
 
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Fishface wrote:
> Edward Diener wrote:
>> I have an AT7 and recently my screen graphics and characters
>> have started to become wiggly.
>
> I have a Trident card (9750?) that does that when running CPU
> intensive apps. But it's not progressive...

Any idea why that happens to you, or do you think your Trident card may just
be getting old. I believe what may be happening, in a very non-technical
sort of hardware guessing kind of way, is that when a video adapter card
gets old and its chips lose their strength somehow, it can't recycle the
vidoe images quickly enough so that they start to appear distorted. I have
ordered an updated video adapter ( I had intended to get one anyway since
the one I have been using is approximately 6 years old ) and I hope that
will fix the problem. If not I will have to see if my monitor can be tested
somehow on another computer to see if that is causing it. However, I
strongly tend not to believe it is a monitor problem, I would hate to think
it is the AGP slot on my AT7 MOBO, since I certainly have done nothing to my
computer to harm it in any way. As far as a computer virus, I ran my virus
testing software, after updating to the latest virus definitions, and it
found nothing.
 
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Edward Diener wrote:
> Any idea why that happens to you, or do you think your Trident card
> may just be getting old.

I bought it on eBay for a dollar, plus shipping, and it always did that
under load. I'm thinking a capacitor or something is bad.
 
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Fishface wrote:
> Edward Diener wrote:
>> Any idea why that happens to you, or do you think your Trident card
>> may just be getting old.
>
> I bought it on eBay for a dollar, plus shipping, and it always did
> that under load. I'm thinking a capacitor or something is bad.

That may be my problem also. A capacitor on the card may have gone out on
me. When I get my new card, in a day or two, I can only hope that fixes the
problem. Thanks for your response.
 
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"- HAL9000" <gumpy@mail.org> wrote in message
news:khpe8058r23ei5v37mpuocm1vv6dadd7lc@4ax.com...
> Does your monitor have On Screen Display (OSD)?
>
> If it does then it will wiggle too if the monitor is faulty. If OSD
> graphics doesn't wiggle then it's the video card.

OSD graphics are fine. Must be the video card. Thanks for the tip. It makes
me feel having ordered another, better video card. I just hope it isn't a
problem with something on the mobo instead, like a capacitor having gone
bad.

>
> Based on failure probability alone, it is more likely to be the
> monitor then the video card.
>
> Forrest
>
> Motherboard Help By HAL web site:
> http://home.comcast.net/~hal-9000/
>
>
> On Wed, 21 Apr 2004 16:01:21 GMT, "Edward Diener"
> <eldiener@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> >I have an AT7 and recently my screen graphics and characters have started
to
> >become wiggly. It is a progression, since when I first boot up into Win2k
> >everything looks fine but the longer my computer runs the more distortion
> >occurs. It could be my monitor, my video adapter, my AGP slot, or some
new
> >virus my system may have received somehow. My best guess is my video
adapter
> >which is quite old and needs to be updated anyway. Has anyone else
> >experienced this who may have a good idea what the usual cause of it is ?
> >
>
>
 
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Edward Diener wrote:
> I have an AT7 and recently my screen graphics and characters have
> started to become wiggly. It is a progression, since when I first
> boot up into Win2k everything looks fine but the longer my computer
> runs the more distortion occurs. It could be my monitor, my video
> adapter, my AGP slot, or some new virus my system may have received
> somehow. My best guess is my video adapter which is quite old and
> needs to be updated anyway. Has anyone else experienced this who may
> have a good idea what the usual cause of it is ?

I upgraded my video adapter to a later model and the problems still persist.
I noticed that as I increase the refresh rate, from 60 hertz to 75 hertz and
85 hertz, the warping and "wiggly" characters get worse. This leads me to
believe that my problem is my monitor. The only other possibility, now that
I have a new video adapter, is that my mobo, or AGP slot, has been damaged
in some way. Does anyone have a good idea how I can test this out and narrow
down my problems further ? Is there any software which can test the mobo or
AGP slot to make sure neither are defective as regards this problem ?
 
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Edward Diener wrote:
> Edward Diener wrote:
>> I have an AT7 and recently my screen graphics and characters have
>> started to become wiggly. It is a progression, since when I first
>> boot up into Win2k everything looks fine but the longer my computer
>> runs the more distortion occurs. It could be my monitor, my video
>> adapter, my AGP slot, or some new virus my system may have received
>> somehow. My best guess is my video adapter which is quite old and
>> needs to be updated anyway. Has anyone else experienced this who may
>> have a good idea what the usual cause of it is ?
>
> I upgraded my video adapter to a later model and the problems still
> persist. I noticed that as I increase the refresh rate, from 60 hertz
> to 75 hertz and 85 hertz, the warping and "wiggly" characters get
> worse. This leads me to believe that my problem is my monitor. The
> only other possibility, now that I have a new video adapter, is that
> my mobo, or AGP slot, has been damaged in some way. Does anyone have
> a good idea how I can test this out and narrow down my problems
> further ? Is there any software which can test the mobo or AGP slot
> to make sure neither are defective as regards this problem ?

It sounds more like a monitor problem. Do you have a fan, or anything
with a magnetic field relatively close to the monitor? Try wiggling the
monitor cable also; there could be a frayed or broken ground wire in the
cable.
 
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ICee wrote:
> Edward Diener wrote:
>> Edward Diener wrote:
>>> I have an AT7 and recently my screen graphics and characters have
>>> started to become wiggly. It is a progression, since when I first
>>> boot up into Win2k everything looks fine but the longer my computer
>>> runs the more distortion occurs. It could be my monitor, my video
>>> adapter, my AGP slot, or some new virus my system may have received
>>> somehow. My best guess is my video adapter which is quite old and
>>> needs to be updated anyway. Has anyone else experienced this who may
>>> have a good idea what the usual cause of it is ?
>>
>> I upgraded my video adapter to a later model and the problems still
>> persist. I noticed that as I increase the refresh rate, from 60 hertz
>> to 75 hertz and 85 hertz, the warping and "wiggly" characters get
>> worse. This leads me to believe that my problem is my monitor. The
>> only other possibility, now that I have a new video adapter, is that
>> my mobo, or AGP slot, has been damaged in some way. Does anyone have
>> a good idea how I can test this out and narrow down my problems
>> further ? Is there any software which can test the mobo or AGP slot
>> to make sure neither are defective as regards this problem ?
>
> It sounds more like a monitor problem. Do you have a fan, or anything
> with a magnetic field relatively close to the monitor? Try wiggling
> the monitor cable also; there could be a frayed or broken ground wire
> in the cable.

I don't think I have a magnetic field anywhere nearby. I do have a cordless
mouse. Does that work off of any signals that could be affecting the
monitor. The only fans I have are those which are part of my computer. It is
difficult to tell if it is the monitor cable. Wiggling the cable doesn't do
anything which I can see.
 
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Edward Diener wrote:
> ICee wrote:
>> Edward Diener wrote:
>>> Edward Diener wrote:
>>>> I have an AT7 and recently my screen graphics and characters have
>>>> started to become wiggly. It is a progression, since when I first
>>>> boot up into Win2k everything looks fine but the longer my computer
>>>> runs the more distortion occurs. It could be my monitor, my video
>>>> adapter, my AGP slot, or some new virus my system may have received
>>>> somehow. My best guess is my video adapter which is quite old and
>>>> needs to be updated anyway. Has anyone else experienced this who
>>>> may have a good idea what the usual cause of it is ?
>>>
>>> I upgraded my video adapter to a later model and the problems still
>>> persist. I noticed that as I increase the refresh rate, from 60
>>> hertz to 75 hertz and 85 hertz, the warping and "wiggly" characters
>>> get worse. This leads me to believe that my problem is my monitor.
>>> The only other possibility, now that I have a new video adapter, is
>>> that my mobo, or AGP slot, has been damaged in some way. Does
>>> anyone have a good idea how I can test this out and narrow down my
>>> problems further ? Is there any software which can test the mobo or
>>> AGP slot to make sure neither are defective as regards this problem
>>> ?
>>
>> It sounds more like a monitor problem. Do you have a fan, or
>> anything with a magnetic field relatively close to the monitor? Try
>> wiggling the monitor cable also; there could be a frayed or broken
>> ground wire in the cable.
>
> I don't think I have a magnetic field anywhere nearby. I do have a
> cordless mouse. Does that work off of any signals that could be
> affecting the monitor. The only fans I have are those which are part
> of my computer. It is difficult to tell if it is the monitor cable.
> Wiggling the cable doesn't do anything which I can see.

I meant an AC powered fan that you would use to cool yourself. :)
No, a wireless mouse would not cause it. It sounds very much like it's
a monitor problem. The only way to be sure is to get another monitor to
try on your system, or take your monitor to another computer.
 
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>The only fans I have are those which are part of my computer.

I use to have my computer close to the side of my monitor and the screen would
wiggle because of the fans inside the case.
 
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ICee wrote:
> Edward Diener wrote:
>> ICee wrote:
>>> Edward Diener wrote:
>>>> Edward Diener wrote:
>>>>> I have an AT7 and recently my screen graphics and characters have
>>>>> started to become wiggly. It is a progression, since when I first
>>>>> boot up into Win2k everything looks fine but the longer my
>>>>> computer runs the more distortion occurs. It could be my monitor,
>>>>> my video adapter, my AGP slot, or some new virus my system may
>>>>> have received somehow. My best guess is my video adapter which is
>>>>> quite old and needs to be updated anyway. Has anyone else
>>>>> experienced this who may have a good idea what the usual cause of
>>>>> it is ?
>>>>
>>>> I upgraded my video adapter to a later model and the problems still
>>>> persist. I noticed that as I increase the refresh rate, from 60
>>>> hertz to 75 hertz and 85 hertz, the warping and "wiggly" characters
>>>> get worse. This leads me to believe that my problem is my monitor.
>>>> The only other possibility, now that I have a new video adapter, is
>>>> that my mobo, or AGP slot, has been damaged in some way. Does
>>>> anyone have a good idea how I can test this out and narrow down my
>>>> problems further ? Is there any software which can test the mobo or
>>>> AGP slot to make sure neither are defective as regards this problem
>>>> ?
>>>
>>> It sounds more like a monitor problem. Do you have a fan, or
>>> anything with a magnetic field relatively close to the monitor? Try
>>> wiggling the monitor cable also; there could be a frayed or broken
>>> ground wire in the cable.
>>
>> I don't think I have a magnetic field anywhere nearby. I do have a
>> cordless mouse. Does that work off of any signals that could be
>> affecting the monitor. The only fans I have are those which are part
>> of my computer. It is difficult to tell if it is the monitor cable.
>> Wiggling the cable doesn't do anything which I can see.
>
> I meant an AC powered fan that you would use to cool yourself. :)
> No, a wireless mouse would not cause it. It sounds very much like
> it's a monitor problem. The only way to be sure is to get another
> monitor to try on your system, or take your monitor to another
> computer.

I will have to try another monitor. I have an older one and I will see if I
can get it hooked up to my computer and see if the same problems are
occurring. Thanks for the help.
 
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Edward Diener wrote:
> ICee wrote:
>> Edward Diener wrote:
>>> ICee wrote:
>>>> Edward Diener wrote:
>>>>> Edward Diener wrote:
>>>>>> I have an AT7 and recently my screen graphics and characters have
>>>>>> started to become wiggly. It is a progression, since when I first
>>>>>> boot up into Win2k everything looks fine but the longer my
>>>>>> computer runs the more distortion occurs. It could be my monitor,
>>>>>> my video adapter, my AGP slot, or some new virus my system may
>>>>>> have received somehow. My best guess is my video adapter which is
>>>>>> quite old and needs to be updated anyway. Has anyone else
>>>>>> experienced this who may have a good idea what the usual cause of
>>>>>> it is ?
>>>>>
>>>>> I upgraded my video adapter to a later model and the problems
>>>>> still persist. I noticed that as I increase the refresh rate,
>>>>> from 60 hertz to 75 hertz and 85 hertz, the warping and "wiggly"
>>>>> characters get worse. This leads me to believe that my problem is
>>>>> my monitor. The only other possibility, now that I have a new
>>>>> video adapter, is that my mobo, or AGP slot, has been damaged in
>>>>> some way. Does anyone have a good idea how I can test this out
>>>>> and narrow down my problems further ? Is there any software which
>>>>> can test the mobo or AGP slot to make sure neither are defective
>>>>> as regards this problem ?
>>>>
>>>> It sounds more like a monitor problem. Do you have a fan, or
>>>> anything with a magnetic field relatively close to the monitor?
>>>> Try wiggling the monitor cable also; there could be a frayed or
>>>> broken ground wire in the cable.
>>>
>>> I don't think I have a magnetic field anywhere nearby. I do have a
>>> cordless mouse. Does that work off of any signals that could be
>>> affecting the monitor. The only fans I have are those which are part
>>> of my computer. It is difficult to tell if it is the monitor cable.
>>> Wiggling the cable doesn't do anything which I can see.
>>
>> I meant an AC powered fan that you would use to cool yourself. :)
>> No, a wireless mouse would not cause it. It sounds very much like
>> it's a monitor problem. The only way to be sure is to get another
>> monitor to try on your system, or take your monitor to another
>> computer.
>
> I will have to try another monitor. I have an older one and I will
> see if I can get it hooked up to my computer and see if the same
> problems are occurring. Thanks for the help.

That's the best way to narrow down where the problem is. You're
welcome, and good luck.
 
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PRIVATE1964 wrote:
>> The only fans I have are those which are part of my computer.
>
> I use to have my computer close to the side of my monitor and the
> screen would wiggle because of the fans inside the case.

My computer is standing under my table and the monitor is on top of the
table. It just doesn't seem to me as if the fans inside should affect my
monitor. Thanks, nonetheless.
 
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>My computer is standing under my table and the monitor is on top of the
>table. It just doesn't seem to me as if the fans inside should affect my
>monitor. Thanks, nonetheless.

Fans work because of magnetics which can effect a monitor. When I had my case
on the side of my monitor the fans would create a constant wiggle in the
picture.

To rule out the fans you should try moving the case a few feet away. Computer
cases are suppose to be shielded so they don't interfer with other electronics
that are close by, but a lot of newer cases don't do that.
Do you realise just the direction the monitor is facing can effect it because
of the magnetic field of the earth? Meaning north, south, east and west.
 
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