News Scythe faces uncertain future in Europe as insolvency proceedings begin

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Scythe faces an uncertain future in Europe as insolvency proceedings have begun. A German court has appointed a provisional insolvency administrator for Scythe EU GmbH to address the mounting financial pressures.

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[bit_user]

Gonna miss Scythe. Their Big Shuriken II Rev. B (upgraded with Noctua 150 mm fan) cooled my 130 W workstation CPU quite well, always keeping it below 80C.

However, I feel like it's been a long, slow slide. In the past decade, they really struggled to stay competitive.

 

[Pierce2623]

Gonna miss Scythe. Their Big Shuriken II (upgraded with Noctua 150 mm fan) cooled my 130 W workstation CPU quite well, always keeping it below 80C.

However, I feel like it's been a long, slow slide. In the past decade, they really struggled to stay competitive.

100%. Their latest models simply cost more than those that offer similar performance.

 

[Notton]

Didn't Scythe bankrupt themselves around a decade ago?
Or was that a different regional branch?

 

[bit_user]

Didn't Scythe bankrupt themselves around a decade ago?
Or was that a different regional branch?

Well, I seem to recall something happened with their USA branch, around then. Their US website does appear to be up and everything looks normal.

https://www.scytheus.com
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[8086]

People need to stop buying all Chinese knockoff products because in the long run, it will hurt us all by putting innovative business out of business.

 

[Notton]

People need to stop buying all Chinese knockoff products because in the long run, it will hurt us all by putting innovative business out of business.

What are you talking about?
Thermalright Ultra-120 Extreme is from 2007, and this has been the pinnacle tower design ever since.
Do you know what Scythe had in 2007? The Ninja Plus Rev.B.
They were both good tower heatsinks in their own right, but the one that is copied the most is the Ultra-120 design.

And if you are talking about the fans, Sythe used rebranded Nidec. Yes, even the coveted Gentle Typhoon is a Nidec rebrand.

And then Scythe could never keep up once Noctua put their foot down with the NH-D14 and a flurry of U series in 2009.

 

[bit_user]

And then Scythe could never keep up once Noctua put their foot down with the NH-D14 and a flurry of U series in 2009.

Yeah, I went from Scythe Big Shuriken II Rev. B to Noctua NH-C14S. Both big down-draft coolers.

Inflation-adjusted, I'm not sure the Noctua cooler was that much more expensive, even though it's a fair bit bigger. One benefit is that it included a Noctua fan, which saved me the trouble of having to swap one in.

 

[bill001g]

Like most things the company that figures stuff out first will become the leader in a industry. When there is lots of profit to be made lots of other companies come in and try to grab some of the market. Unless you have constant new inovation your profit disappears quickly.

The cooler market has become saturated and many other designs are as good if not better than the ones that scythe uses.

Even noctua is likely at risk. They are technically the "best" in many categories but they need to spend huge money on marketing. When you have stuff like Thermalright peerless assassin selling for a fraction of the cost it takes a lot of persuasion to get someone to spend more. This has become a competition for the very high end buyers who will pay more to get what they perceive is the best. In many cases it is more about bragging rights than something that actually gives them more performance in their machine other than on benchmark tests.

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[Pierce2623]

Yeah, I went from Scythe Big Shuriken II Rev. B to Noctua NH-C14S. Both big down-draft coolers.

Inflation-adjusted, I'm not sure the Noctua cooler was that much more expensive, even though it's a fair bit bigger. One benefit is that it included a Noctua fan, which saved me the trouble of having to swap one in.

I did the Noctua fan thing for a while until I discovered that Arctic tended to match them on pressure and almost match them on noise for a tiny fraction of the price. Noctua’s reliability advantage certainly isn’t enough to outweigh 4 to 1 pricing.

 

[bit_user]

I did the Noctua fan thing for a while until I discovered that Arctic

Yeah, Noctua certainly doesn't have a lock on the high-end fan market that it once used to.

From Anandtech's final fan review:

Source: https://www.anandtech.com/show/21376/capsule-review-sunon-maglev-120mm-fan
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[kunalneo]

Here’s an update on the matter folks:

https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-com...its-european-division-amid-financial-troubles