Seagate 8 TB HDDs Widely Available Next Quarter, Shipping Now

[N.Broekhuijsen]

Seagate announced that it is shipping 8 TB hard drives to its key customers, and that's it. Period.

Seagate 8 TB HDDs Widely Available Next Quarter, Shipping Now : Read more

 

[back_by_demand]

That is a LOT of porn

 

[ssdpro]

Working for Tom's must be easy... just scan what other sites report yesterday or earlier this morning, patch it all together into something that looks like it is freshly written and post. I watch 3 sites on a daily basis and Tom's always, without exception, posts the same stories just 4-24 hours later. I don't hate Tom's for it, just a reality... heck I am still here aren't I?

 

[lp231]

I'm still waiting for a 1 yottabyte drive

 

[Murissokah]

I'd wish I was excited by this, but past experience with Seagate tells me this will be the best way to lose a lot of data.

 

[mesab66]

ssdpro: constantly daily monitoring multiple sites for new updates and then complaining that one site is a little slower for a particular story than another is a wee bit unfair. Remember, there are real people involved. Many do this in their free time, and, we don't have to pay to visit these sites. If you have proof that information is routinely being plagiarised - word for word - then please detail.

 

[warezme]

And I bet they still have the firmware bug that bricks them randomly.

 

[srap]

@ssdpro:
At least they aren't jumping at the bullshift bandwagon like some "write early-write much" sites.

 

[lp231]

ssdpro: constantly daily monitoring multiple sites for new updates and then complaining that one site is a little slower for a particular story than another is a wee bit unfair. Remember, there are real people involved. Many do this in their free time, and, we don't have to pay to visit these sites. If you have proof that information is routinely being plagiarised - word for word - then please detail.

It's not about being slower of faster, some are a day head so they get to publish the article first. If you're on the other side of the globe, right now you would still be in bed and going on to 8/27. If your on the Western side where the U.S. is, you'll probably be still at work and the day is 8/26.
Same article from Tom's UK
http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/seagate-8tb-hard-drive-hdd,news-48687.html

 

[outlw6669]

It is about time that we get another boost in storage capacities!
My SFF Server would welcome a pair of these.

 

[christinebcw]

I am hoping this isn't another baby-step in platter density but a full-blown 4-platter 1Tb-per-side density - a substantial increase.

Of course, "What took them so long?" and "Why isn't it 2Tb per side?" are some of my next questions. With a baker's dozen of the 2Tb-per-side (16Tb total), I could finally settle down to a real media center.

 

[zanny]

Of course, "What took them so long?" and "Why isn't it 2Tb per side?" are some of my next questions. With a baker's dozen of the 2Tb-per-side (16Tb total), I could finally settle down to a real media center.

with 16tb drives, it only takes 64 drives to have a petabyte raid 6.

64 drives ain't that many, relatively speaking.

 

[christinebcw]

I really don't need that many. Honest. I'd do two 6-drive RAID5s (16Tb per drive X 5 usables = 80Tb each). That's give me enough for even some TV series boxsets - now that DOBIE GILLIS is out, and that COMPLETE HONEYMOONERS arrived 18 months ago... gotta have more disk space!

Of course, that rebuild time might be a tad lengthy... any idea if Rebuilds will be using Stone Tablet-and-Chisel speeds still?

 

[neiroatopelcc]

I doubt you'd want to run any raid setup on seagate tapestreamers disguised as harddrives

 

[christinebcw]

Tape streamers? Uh. Yeah. But we DO use dixie-cups-and-strings. Does that count?

 

[Darkk]

These drives are great for media servers provided it's in a RAID array. 8TB is alot to lose if the drive should fail. Love to have three of these puppies in RAID 5 for 16TB of usable space. Sweet!

 

[christinebcw]

Yes. Now, just think of copying those media files to fill those puppies up. "I'll see you in a year or two, OK?"

(I once remember installing some 6-diskette software package... someone brought me lunch. "Still going?" Yes.

Ah, the joys of Netware 2.2 and 3. The good ol' days might be back!

Holy ArcNet, Batman!

 

[elbert]

Looking back to 2005 HD capacity doubled ever 2 years til 2011. This 8TB capacity is a year maybe more behind schedule. I would like to see a 12~16TB drive next year.

 

[chaosmassive]

once its fiil up its pain in the ass to defrag it.

 

[christinebcw]

(Oh yeah... I've got 4Tbs that I'd swear it would be quicker to do Full Copies to Empty Drive than wait for defrags. Well, that's why God invented "doing it every day/week", I suppose. That really doesn't take so long then!)

ELBERT, yes, "late in capacity change". And also prices aren't so terrific, either. Back before the Thailand Floods (cough cough), we bought a stack of Hitachi 3Tb 7200s for $139 retail. They've only hit that price recently, and only passing under that mark 'on sale specials'.

I think this high-price for drives AND memory - and heck, notebooks too - are what's stifled the custom sales market. The first generation of i5 notebooks ("4Gb RAM, 500Gb HDD") were on sales specials in the $470 range.

That's what they are now, too. Occasionally, we'll see a low-end name brand (Gateway, cough cough) that will be closer to $400, or refurbs for somewhat less. But these should have followed the market trend of dropping by a $100 or more by this time.

It's not that these are truly "unaffordably high prices" - it's just that they haven't dropped as much, as fast, and customers are saying, "Why spend the same amount when I'm getting minor or perhaps not even noticeably faster performance? And where's the new killer apps? I'm still doing exactly the same productive work I was in 2003. Why get a new computer at all?"

The maintenance of these high prices AND relatively slow increases in services or performance improvements gives consumers the idea: "Sure - stick with XP... why not? Stick with my 2010 notebook - why not?"

Cut the massive HDDs into the $100 range... 16Gb RAM into the $50-80 range... (it IS great to see 1Tb drives in the $50-60 range. Honestly, they can't get much lower.)

 

[teknomedic]

it's time we get a new faster interface and far faster drive read/write speeds.... I wonder if they could double or triple the heads per platter to increase speeds... almost like a raid array inside the drive itself

 

[christinebcw]

Tek, I've been told "no, we're at our limits of mechanical reads..."

I heard this in 1988, too. 1995. Onward.

And actually, if I think about it, all drives are RAIDs. I mean - what's a RAID? "Data recorded across drives", right? So, when I have 2 or 5 platters inside a drive casing, aren't I "writing across platters/drives", therefore? Bits here, bytes there?

Yes. The Formal RAID is now "spanning platter-writing across more platters" now. I do wonder what happened to those 36-inch pizza platters that IBM installed in so many systems in the 80s...

"Welcome to Dominos!" Ah yes...

 

[BadBoyGreek]

I agree with the other posters re: Seagate's reliability issues. After I had two new 3 TB drives die on me only a few months in, I swore I'd never buy another one of Seagate's product again.

 

[onichikun]

At these densities MTBF and MTTR are going to overlap significantly even for Raid 6. Good way to lose a lot of data.

 

[gm0n3y]

it's time we get a new faster interface and far faster drive read/write speeds.... I wonder if they could double or triple the heads per platter to increase speeds... almost like a raid array inside the drive itself

I seriously doubt that would ever happen. Storage R&D is mostly in SSDs now.