Seagate Announces 10TB Consumer HDD Lineup With Five Year Warranty

[littleleo]

The problem with Seagate's Barracuda drives is that they are largely unreliably. Of the 100 or so I've purchased in the last 5 years, all but a dozen have failed within or just outside the warranty period. Whilst Seagate have always replaced the drives, the risk of data loss is substantial, and it's costly to keep sending drives back to the distributor.

The 5 and 6 TB offerings are unaffordable and priced so far outside the economic replacement boundary, that to adopt those drives is a massive cost of replacement, for a tiny or no increase in total capacity.

$470 USD should translate to $626 AUD, but we here in Australia get exploited with tech pricing all the time (Just look at the $1649 price tag on most resellers for the I7-6900K). It'll be more likely that the drives will retail here for $750 - $800 each, making them a ridiculous investment, even with a mediocre warranty period of 5 years.

Sounds like they are very reliable, you know they will fail within 5 years.

 

[dgingeri]

Yeah, thanks Seagate, but I'll stick with Hitachi Ultrastars.

 

[littleleo]

The problem with Seagate's Barracuda drives is that they are largely unreliably. Of the 100 or so I've purchased in the last 5 years, all but a dozen have failed within or just outside the warranty period. Whilst Seagate have always replaced the drives, the risk of data loss is substantial, and it's costly to keep sending drives back to the distributor.

The 5 and 6 TB offerings are unaffordable and priced so far outside the economic replacement boundary, that to adopt those drives is a massive cost of replacement, for a tiny or no increase in total capacity.

$470 USD should translate to $626 AUD, but we here in Australia get exploited with tech pricing all the time (Just look at the $1649 price tag on most resellers for the I7-6900K). It'll be more likely that the drives will retail here for $750 - $800 each, making them a ridiculous investment, even with a mediocre warranty period of 5 years.

But you are putting in personal opinion/experience as fact when the truth is that Seagates are about as reliable as most other brands. My best experience is when I worked in a repair shop. The worst we had were the HGST and Toshiba 7mm 2.5" HDDs but other than that none were more reliable than the others if you compares apples to apples, i.e. entry level to entry level and so on and not consumer to enterprise or high end to low end.

Then there is pricing. There is no Consumer end 8TB or 10TB from HGST who makes good drives. Closest is their 8TB enterprise drive that is around $480 bucks for a OEM drive.

Then there is WD. Again closest is 8TB and it is their NAS drive which is cheaper but also is slower and smaller.

Both have lower warranties, unless you go to the WD Red Pro (couldn't find one for sell on Newegg) which has the same as the Barracuda Pro.

I think it is good. Until SSDs become much cheaper and much larger this is the best way to get storage space and this 10TB HDD will help push down the $/GB and hopefully push competition because you can't have just one company.

Awesome! Can't wait for WD to release their superior version. 🙂

If by superior you mean a HDD with probably about the same failure rate as the other major HDD manufactures then yes.

Personal experience is always a major factor when people make purchases, that is why a customers 1st impression on a product/brand is so important. It is just human nature for us to develop such reaction to brand experiences.

I have one batch of customers that only want Seagate and swear by them and say they have always had great experiences with them and they hate WD because they always fail. Then another batch that feel the opposite they only want WD they hate seagate because they always fail.

Me, I think all are about the same but I noticed sometimes one brand will have a batch that seems bad. Like a part they got for that run was defective. I've seen this happen with all the brands. In my computer I have WD, Seagate, Maxtor, Even an old Samsung hard drives and a SSD. All the IBM Deskstars (Deathstar) I replaced as they died so none of the IBM/Hitachi are left.

 

[littleleo]

As the price on SSDs comes down I think the hard drive manufactures will be pushing these larger capacities to survive. Low cost SSDs are become more common for the smaller sizes 120GB to 250GB, perhaps some 500GB to 512GB models. For hard drives mfrs to stay relevant I expect them to focus more on the 1TB and larger segment.

 

[PaulAlcorn]

You might want to check your graphs again: "The BarraCuda Pro breaks new ground with a 300 TB-per-year workload rating. " but the graph states 180TB/yr

Fixed.

 

[firefoxx04]

While Seagate has had lower than average reliability, their failure rates have been one a decreasing trend for a while. Other companies have had an increase.

I use hgst and Seagate. They all work. I know Seagate fail much more often but they have been getting better.

 

[AlienTeck]

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[AlienTeck]

Its funny but when I was in the US I was envious of how cheap stuff was in Europe or how Europeans would get some stuff which we could not. Now I am in India and I find stuff costs far more than the US and in fact, I can order stuff from the US and it ends up being cheaper.. Even though the stuff is made close by like in China, which goes to the US and from there it goes to India and that's including taxes and shipping and handling. But here again the problem is not finding the stuff you want and needing to order it. Seagate like WDC now does region warranty and not worldwide. So ordering stuff not so good unless you have friends who could pick up the drive you ship for warranty work.

 

[jonathan1683]

Every time I read about a new piece of hardware there is an Australian complaining they have to pay more for it.. We get it stuff costs more there.

 

[HyperState]

Seriously... I a all new Harddrive. Stop comparing them to the old BarraCuda series. Meh..

All i can say is, that out of my 20+ Seagates, only 1 died.
On the other end, ive had 4 WD's die before warrenty ended.

Atm, im running 8 Segate ES.2... They just continue to work..

 

[thundervore]

The work of a Seagate fanboy? heh.

Well there was this...
"HDD vendors abandoned long warranty periods for consumer-class HDDs in the wake of the supply-restricting 2011 Thailand floods. The "new normal" for desktop PC HDDs is two years, which the BarraCuda Pro more than doubles."

Which is odd since it's only partially true. Western Digital and HGST have been running on 3 year+ warranty periods for most of their drive models for a while now. WD Black drives have been on a 5 year warranty, Red/Purple drives 3 years, and Blue/Green 2 years. Seagate was the one who wasn't willing to do a 3 year warranty period and in fact also has drive models with a 1 year warranty!

Considering the BarraCuda is most equivalent to the WD Black line the following comment seems a little backwards as well...
"In either case, the five-year warranty should spur other vendors to reciprocate."
It seems that Seagate playing catch up is the more accurate assessment. Not only do they bump the Barracuda line warranties up to match WD Black drives they also boost their IronWolf/SkyWolf lineup to a 3 year warranty to match WD Red/Purple drives.

Considering HGST He drives have been available off Amazon and Newegg for quite a while, and for right around the same price Seagate is launching these high end Helium drives I think it's fair to say the HGST drives are easily accessible for enthusiast desktop use. It just seems a bit disingenuous when you close with...
"The desktop PC drives do come at a premium, but Seagate is currently the only game in town for a 10 TB desktop HDD, not to mention the five-year warranty. "

But maybe it's just me and it won't matter in a few years anyway with 4TB of NAND popping up in the 2.5" form factor. Kind of eliminates the last advantage mechanicals had.

I did overlook the WD Black. Ouch. I will amend the article where necessary, thanks.
The 3-year on Red/Purple don't apply to the desktop market, they are NAS and surveillance. The Blue/Green are desktop with 2-year, and Toshiba's desktop HDDs are 2-year as well, so with all desktop HDDs, with the exception of the Black, having two-year warranties I think it is fair to say that is "the new normal." However, we must account for the Black in the article, thanks for pointing it out.

IIRC
Toshiba's Desktop drives are Parts: 3 Year Factory Warranty, Labor: 3 Year Factory Warranty if you buy the retail version, they are only 2 year warranty if you buy the OEM version.

 

[PaulAlcorn]

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IIRC
Toshiba's Desktop drives are Parts: 3 Year Factory Warranty, Labor: 3 Year Factory Warranty if you buy the retail version, they are only 2 year warranty if you buy the OEM version.

According to the website they are 2 year. http://us.toshiba.com/storage/internal/desktop

I also checked the Egg, and they have the X300 listed at 2 year as well.

 

[thundervore]

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IIRC
Toshiba's Desktop drives are Parts: 3 Year Factory Warranty, Labor: 3 Year Factory Warranty if you buy the retail version, they are only 2 year warranty if you buy the OEM version.

According to the website they are 2 year. http://us.toshiba.com/storage/internal/desktop

I also checked the Egg, and they have the X300 listed at 2 year as well.

You are correct and I find this shocking as when I purchased Toshiba PH3200U in 2014, all 8x 3TB and 10x 2TB retail versions came with 3 year warranties, the OEM versions came with 2 year warranties and now I searched for them on Newegg "N82E16822149396" and I see the warranty on the same exact drives are now 1 year and the X300 are 2 years.......

 

[littleleo]

Seriously... I a all new Harddrive. Stop comparing them to the old BarraCuda series. Meh..

All i can say is, that out of my 20+ Seagates, only 1 died.
On the other end, ive had 4 WD's die before warrenty ended.

Atm, im running 8 Segate ES.2... They just continue to work..

Well good thing the WDs were still under warranty, you know you jinxed yourself on the Seagate drives right? There are somethings you just don't do:
1. Don't comment how fast things are going on the freeway or in a line your in.
2. Don't say "things could be worse", or they soon will be.
3. Don't tell your lady she looks fat, if she asks you say "You look as hot and sexy as the day we met".
4. Don't ask the cop to hold your open container or joint while you look for your Drivers License and registration.
5. Don't tell the Professor he left the answers on the last page of the final.
6. Don't tell your old lady you just got a big bonus.
7. Don't comment on your hard drives never failing! They are listening!