Question Seagate barracuda Grinding Noise

Oct 19, 2020
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Ok so i bought a seagate barracuda 2tb 7200rpm drive a few days ago, instantly when i downloaded stuff it sounded like the hdd inside was scraping or something. Then ive been looking a bit at hdd grinding noises and its the same, so is the drive faulty should i ask for a replacement? Or is it just how Barracudas work.

When the raw read error is at 100 it doesnt make the grinding noise but when it goes under its grinding like crazy

The noise btw https://voca.ro/hd6HkOlJeyV

Hp tune healt readings
HD Tune Pro: ST2000DM008-2FR102 Health

ID Current Worst ThresholdData Status
(01) Raw Read Error Rate 72 64 6 15694565 ok
(03) Spin Up Time 99 99 0 0 ok
(04) Start/Stop Count 100 100 20 45 ok
(05) Reallocated Sector Count 100 100 10 0 ok
(07) Seek Error Rate 62 60 45 1493957 ok
(09) Power On Hours Count 100 100 0 182853937659935 ok
(0A) Spin Retry Count 100 100 97 0 ok
(0C) Power Cycle Count 100 100 20 27 ok
(B7) SATA Downshift Count 100 100 0 0 ok
(B8) End To End Error Detection 100 100 99 0 ok
(BB) Uncorrectable Error Count 100 100 0 0 ok
(BC) Command Timeout 100 100 0 0 ok
(BD) Unknown Attribute 100 100 0 0 ok
(BE) Airflow Temperature 69 50 40 571932703 ok
(BF) G-sense Error Rate 100 100 0 0 ok
(C0) Unsafe Shutdown Count 100 100 0 1 ok
(C1) Load Cycle Count 100 100 0 356 ok
(C2) Temperature 31 50 0 90194313247 ok
(C3) Hardware ECC Recovered 72 64 0 15694565 ok
(C5) Current Pending Sector 100 100 0 0 ok
(C6) Offline Uncorrectable 100 100 0 0 ok
(C7) Interface CRC Error Count 200 200 0 0 ok
(F0) Head Flying Hours 100 253 0 230888851898386 ok
(F1) Unknown Attribute 100 253 0 875329035 ok
(F2) Unknown Attribute 100 253 0 5886878228 ok

Health Status : ok
 

mdd1963

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hard drive's make noise when accessing data/reading/writing, some noticeably more than others, and, some 7200 RPM drives can be heard across the room if/when everything else is quiet..

I'd download/install/run GsmartControl /short test, and, if it passes, perhaps accept you are going to 'hear' that drive if it otherwise works ok, passes assorted tests.
 
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hard drive's make noise when accessing data/reading/writing, some noticeably more than others, and, some 7200 RPM drives can be heard across the room if/when everything else is quiet..

I'd download/install/run GsmartControl /short test, and, if it passes, perhaps accept you are going to 'hear' that drive if it otherwise works ok, passes assorted tests.
Ye but from what ive read, hdd grinding is a sign of a closing failure so im like should i use this and i also read that smr hdd is a bit bad than cmr hdd's
 
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hard drive's make noise when accessing data/reading/writing, some noticeably more than others, and, some 7200 RPM drives can be heard across the room if/when everything else is quiet..

I'd download/install/run GsmartControl /short test, and, if it passes, perhaps accept you are going to 'hear' that drive if it otherwise works ok, passes assorted tests.
smartctl 6.6 2017-11-05 r4594 [x86_64-w64-mingw32-w10-b19041] (sf-6.6-1)
Copyright (C) 2002-17, Bruce Allen, Christian Franke, www.smartmontools.org

=== START OF INFORMATION SECTION ===
Device Model: ST2000DM008-2FR102
Serial Number: WFL49445
LU WWN Device Id: 5 000c50 0d0877121
Firmware Version: 0001
User Capacity: 2,000,398,934,016 bytes [2.00 TB]
Sector Sizes: 512 bytes logical, 4096 bytes physical
Rotation Rate: 7200 rpm
Form Factor: 3.5 inches
Device is: Not in smartctl database [for details use: -P showall]
ATA Version is: ACS-3 T13/2161-D revision 5
SATA Version is: SATA 3.1, 6.0 Gb/s (current: 6.0 Gb/s)
Local Time is: Mon Oct 19 21:20:22 2020 WEDT
SMART support is: Available - device has SMART capability.
SMART support is: Enabled
AAM feature is: Unavailable
APM level is: 128 (minimum power consumption without standby)
Rd look-ahead is: Enabled
Write cache is: Enabled
DSN feature is: Unavailable
ATA Security is: Disabled, frozen [SEC2]

=== START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION ===
SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED

General SMART Values:
Offline data collection status: (0x00) Offline data collection activity
was never started.
Auto Offline Data Collection: Disabled.
Self-test execution status: ( 0) The previous self-test routine completed
without error or no self-test has ever
been run.
Total time to complete Offline
data collection: ( 0) seconds.
Offline data collection
capabilities: (0x73) SMART execute Offline immediate.
Auto Offline data collection on/off support.
Suspend Offline collection upon new
command.
No Offline surface scan supported.
Self-test supported.
Conveyance Self-test supported.
Selective Self-test supported.
SMART capabilities: (0x0003) Saves SMART data before entering
power-saving mode.
Supports SMART auto save timer.
Error logging capability: (0x01) Error logging supported.
General Purpose Logging supported.
Short self-test routine
recommended polling time: ( 1) minutes.
Extended self-test routine
recommended polling time: ( 199) minutes.
Conveyance self-test routine
recommended polling time: ( 2) minutes.
SCT capabilities: (0x30a5) SCT Status supported.
SCT Data Table supported.

SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 10
Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds:
ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME FLAGS VALUE WORST THRESH FAIL RAW_VALUE
1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate POSR-- 072 064 006 - 15696789
3 Spin_Up_Time PO---- 099 099 000 - 0
4 Start_Stop_Count -O--CK 100 100 020 - 45
5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct PO--CK 100 100 010 - 0
7 Seek_Error_Rate POSR-- 062 060 045 - 1523031
9 Power_On_Hours -O--CK 100 100 000 - 32 (233 146 0)
10 Spin_Retry_Count PO--C- 100 100 097 - 0
12 Power_Cycle_Count -O--CK 100 100 020 - 27
183 Runtime_Bad_Block -O--CK 100 100 000 - 0
184 End-to-End_Error -O--CK 100 100 099 - 0
187 Reported_Uncorrect -O--CK 100 100 000 - 0
188 Command_Timeout -O--CK 100 100 000 - 0
189 High_Fly_Writes -O-RCK 100 100 000 - 0
190 Airflow_Temperature_Cel -O---K 069 050 040 - 31 (Min/Max 23/34)
191 G-Sense_Error_Rate -O--CK 100 100 000 - 0
192 Power-Off_Retract_Count -O--CK 100 100 000 - 1
193 Load_Cycle_Count -O--CK 100 100 000 - 356
194 Temperature_Celsius -O---K 031 050 000 - 31 (0 21 0 0 0)
195 Hardware_ECC_Recovered -O-RC- 072 064 000 - 15696789
197 Current_Pending_Sector -O--C- 100 100 000 - 0
198 Offline_Uncorrectable ----C- 100 100 000 - 0
199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count -OSRCK 200 200 000 - 0
240 Head_Flying_Hours ------ 100 253 000 - 19 (21 63 0)
241 Total_LBAs_Written ------ 100 253 000 - 875329899
242 Total_LBAs_Read ------ 100 253 000 - 5886879588
||||||_ K auto-keep
|||||__ C event count
||||___ R error rate
|||____ S speed/performance
||_ O updated online
|__ P prefailure warning

General Purpose Log Directory Version 1
SMART Log Directory Version 1 [multi-sector log support]
Address Access R/W Size Description
0x00 GPL,SL R/O 1 Log Directory
0x01 SL R/O 1 Summary SMART error log
0x02 SL R/O 5 Comprehensive SMART error log
0x03 GPL R/O 5 Ext. Comprehensive SMART error log
0x04 GPL,SL R/O 8 Device Statistics log
0x06 SL R/O 1 SMART self-test log
0x07 GPL R/O 1 Extended self-test log
0x09 SL R/W 1 Selective self-test log
0x0c GPL R/O 2048 Pending Defects log
0x10 GPL R/O 1 NCQ Command Error log
0x11 GPL R/O 1 SATA Phy Event Counters log
0x21 GPL R/O 1 Write stream error log
0x22 GPL R/O 1 Read stream error log
0x24 GPL R/O 512 Current Device Internal Status Data log
0x30 GPL,SL R/O 9 IDENTIFY DEVICE data log
0x80-0x9f GPL,SL R/W 16 Host vendor specific log
0xa1 GPL,SL VS 24 Device vendor specific log
0xa2 GPL VS 8160 Device vendor specific log
0xa6 GPL VS 192 Device vendor specific log
0xa8-0xa9 GPL,SL VS 136 Device vendor specific log
0xab GPL VS 1 Device vendor specific log
0xb0 GPL VS 9048 Device vendor specific log
0xbd GPL VS 8 Device vendor specific log
0xbe-0xbf GPL VS 65535 Device vendor specific log
0xc0 GPL,SL VS 1 Device vendor specific log
0xc1 GPL,SL VS 16 Device vendor specific log
0xc3 GPL,SL VS 8 Device vendor specific log
0xc4 GPL,SL VS 24 Device vendor specific log
0xd1 GPL VS 264 Device vendor specific log
0xd3 GPL VS 1920 Device vendor specific log
0xe0 GPL,SL R/W 1 SCT Command/Status
0xe1 GPL,SL R/W 1 SCT Data Transfer

SMART Extended Comprehensive Error Log Version: 1 (5 sectors)
No Errors Logged

SMART Extended Self-test Log Version: 1 (1 sectors)
Num Test_Description Status Remaining LifeTime(hours) LBA_of_first_error
# 1 Conveyance offline Completed without error 00% 32 -
# 2 Short offline Completed without error 00% 31 -
# 3 Short offline Completed without error 00% 29 -
# 4 Short offline Completed without error 00% 18 -

SMART Selective self-test log data structure revision number 1
SPAN MIN_LBA MAX_LBA CURRENT_TEST_STATUS
1 0 0 Not_testing
2 0 0 Not_testing
3 0 0 Not_testing
4 0 0 Not_testing
5 0 0 Not_testing
Selective self-test flags (0x0):
After scanning selected spans, do NOT read-scan remainder of disk.
If Selective self-test is pending on power-up, resume after 0 minute delay.

SCT Status Version: 3
SCT Version (vendor specific): 522 (0x020a)
SCT Support Level: 1
Device State: Active (0)
Current Temperature: 31 Celsius
Power Cycle Min/Max Temperature: 24/34 Celsius
Lifetime Min/Max Temperature: 21/50 Celsius
Under/Over Temperature Limit Count: 0/0

SCT Temperature History Version: 2
Temperature Sampling Period: 3 minutes
Temperature Logging Interval: 59 minutes
Min/Max recommended Temperature: 14/55 Celsius
Min/Max Temperature Limit: 10/60 Celsius
Temperature History Size (Index): 128 (73)

Index Estimated Time Temperature Celsius
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127 2020-10-16 20:31 ? -
0 2020-10-16 21:30 50 ***
1 2020-10-16 22:29 ? -
2 2020-10-16 23:28 24 *
3 2020-10-17 00:27 ? -
4 2020-10-17 01:26 25 **
5 2020-10-17 02:25 ? -
6 2020-10-17 03:24 25 **
7 2020-10-17 04:23 ? -
8 2020-10-17 05:22 24 *
9 2020-10-17 06:21 ? -
10 2020-10-17 07:20 25 **
11 2020-10-17 08:19 ? -
12 2020-10-17 09:18 27 ****
13 2020-10-17 10:17 ? -
14 2020-10-17 11:16 32 *
15 2020-10-17 12:15 ? -
16 2020-10-17 13:14 32 *
17 2020-10-17 14:13 ? -
18 2020-10-17 15:12 22 ***
19 2020-10-17 16:11 30 ***
20 2020-10-17 17:10 ? -
21 2020-10-17 18:09 29 **
22 2020-10-17 19:08 ? -
23 2020-10-17 20:07 30 ***
24 2020-10-17 21:06 ? -
25 2020-10-17 22:05 30 ***
26 2020-10-17 23:04 32 *
27 2020-10-18 00:03 ? -
28 2020-10-18 01:02 31 ****
29 2020-10-18 02:01 29 **
30 2020-10-18 03:00 31 ****
31 2020-10-18 03:59 31 ****
32 2020-10-18 04:58 30 ***
33 2020-10-18 05:57 30 ***
34 2020-10-18 06:56 ? -
35 2020-10-18 07:55 30 ***
36 2020-10-18 08:54 ? -
37 2020-10-18 09:53 31 ****
38 2020-10-18 10:52 33 **
39 2020-10-18 11:51 ? -
40 2020-10-18 12:50 21 **
41 2020-10-18 13:49 ? -
42 2020-10-18 14:48 22 ***
43 2020-10-18 15:47 32 *
44 2020-10-18 16:46 33 **
45 2020-10-18 17:45 29 **
46 2020-10-18 18:44 30 ***
47 2020-10-18 19:43 31 ****
48 2020-10-18 20:42 ? -
49 2020-10-18 21:41 23 ****
50 2020-10-18 22:40 ? -
51 2020-10-18 23:39 24 *
52 2020-10-19 00:38 ? -
53 2020-10-19 01:37 25 **
54 2020-10-19 02:36 ? -
55 2020-10-19 03:35 28 *
56 2020-10-19 04:34 ? -
57 2020-10-19 05:33 29 **
58 2020-10-19 06:32 ? -
59 2020-10-19 07:31 29 **
60 2020-10-19 08:30 ? -
61 2020-10-19 09:29 30 ***
62 2020-10-19 10:28 ? -
63 2020-10-19 11:27 22 ***
64 2020-10-19 12:26 ? -
65 2020-10-19 13:25 21 **
66 2020-10-19 14:24 ? -
67 2020-10-19 15:23 24 *
68 2020-10-19 16:22 30 ***
69 2020-10-19 17:21 31 ****
70 2020-10-19 18:20 33 **
71 2020-10-19 19:19 32 *
72 2020-10-19 20:18 31 ****
73 2020-10-19 21:17 31 ****

SCT Error Recovery Control command not supported

Device Statistics (GP Log 0x04)
Page Offset Size Value Flags Description
0x01 ===== = = === == General Statistics (rev 1) ==
0x01 0x008 4 27 --- Lifetime Power-On Resets
0x01 0x010 4 32 --- Power-on Hours
0x01 0x018 6 875326579 --- Logical Sectors Written
0x01 0x020 6 3586427 --- Number of Write Commands
0x01 0x028 6 5886878952 --- Logical Sectors Read
0x01 0x030 6 42866908 --- Number of Read Commands
0x01 0x038 6 - --- Date and Time TimeStamp
0x03 ===== = = === == Rotating Media Statistics (rev 1) ==
0x03 0x008 4 31 --- Spindle Motor Power-on Hours
0x03 0x010 4 19 --- Head Flying Hours
0x03 0x018 4 356 --- Head Load Events
0x03 0x020 4 0 --- Number of Reallocated Logical Sectors
0x03 0x028 4 0 --- Read Recovery Attempts
0x03 0x030 4 0 --- Number of Mechanical Start Failures
0x03 0x038 4 0 --- Number of Realloc. Candidate Logical Sectors
0x03 0x040 4 1 --- Number of High Priority Unload Events
0x04 ===== = = === == General Errors Statistics (rev 1) ==
0x04 0x008 4 0 --- Number of Reported Uncorrectable Errors
0x04 0x010 4 0 --- Resets Between Cmd Acceptance and Completion
0x05 ===== = = === == Temperature Statistics (rev 1) ==
0x05 0x008 1 31 --- Current Temperature
0x05 0x010 1 30 --- Average Short Term Temperature
0x05 0x018 1 - --- Average Long Term Temperature
0x05 0x020 1 35 --- Highest Temperature
0x05 0x028 1 25 --- Lowest Temperature
0x05 0x030 1 30 --- Highest Average Short Term Temperature
0x05 0x038 1 30 --- Lowest Average Short Term Temperature
0x05 0x040 1 - --- Highest Average Long Term Temperature
0x05 0x048 1 - --- Lowest Average Long Term Temperature
0x05 0x050 4 0 --- Time in Over-Temperature
0x05 0x058 1 60 --- Specified Maximum Operating Temperature
0x05 0x060 4 0 --- Time in Under-Temperature
0x05 0x068 1 0 --- Specified Minimum Operating Temperature
0x06 ===== = = === == Transport Statistics (rev 1) ==
0x06 0x008 4 294 --- Number of Hardware Resets
0x06 0x010 4 18 --- Number of ASR Events
0x06 0x018 4 0 --- Number of Interface CRC Errors
|||_ C monitored condition met
||__ D supports DSN
|___ N normalized value

SATA Phy Event Counters (GP Log 0x11)
ID Size Value Description
0x000a 2 15 Device-to-host register FISes sent due to a COMRESET
0x0001 2 0 Command failed due to ICRC error
0x0003 2 0 R_ERR response for device-to-host data FIS
0x0004 2 0 R_ERR response for host-to-device data FIS
0x0006 2 0 R_ERR response for device-to-host non-data FIS
0x0007 2 0 R_ERR response for host-to-device non-data FIS


It says that raw read error rate, spin-up time, sector count, seek error rate annd spin up retry is pre failure what does that mean
 

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When i used hdd drives i use to say it sounded like a kettle boiling but at that time i was not confident enough to see if it was loose in the mounts.
A grinding noise is a classic case of faulty bearings , just because its new does not mean it cant be faulty , you wont know if your new car has a gearbox problem until you start driving.

BTW some say ssd's are unbreakable , they are not !!! i got an extra external one for transferring photos between pc's , it got very hot , not warm , i took it back and at first they did not want to swap it , i said its still hot and i live 20 miles away ... i got a refund
 

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When i used hdd drives i use to say it sounded like a kettle boiling but at that time i was not confident enough to see if it was loose in the mounts.
A grinding noise is a classic case of faulty bearings , just because its new does not mean it cant be faulty , you wont know if your new car has a gearbox problem until you start driving.

BTW some say ssd's are unbreakable , they are not !!! i got an extra external one for transferring photos between pc's , it got very hot , not warm , i took it back and at first they did not want to swap it , i said its still hot and i live 20 miles away ... i got a refund
SSD's, just like any other piece of electronics, and not "unbreakable". I've had one die.
They are, however, proving to be more reliable than HDD.
 

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