Seagate Launches ''Universal'' External HDD Line

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Right........

File this in the rip off category. If I want universal I just go use some ancient ide drive when moving files to and from one or more vintage rigs to a modern box...

Some of us still keep our older computers.
 

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This just in:

Not only do Seagate drives suck because of terrible reliability now they show us how to take a great idea and make that suck too by overcharging the hell out of the consumer.

Anyone dumb enough to fall for this crap deserves the buyers remorse they will inevitably feel.
 
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Cables cost these vendors a few dollars - a very few dollars. I once saw an HDMI cable at Best Buy for $135. You can buy one just like it on line for less than $20.

What a rip...
 

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[citation][nom]mgilbert[/nom]Cables cost these vendors a few dollars - a very few dollars. I once saw an HDMI cable at Best Buy for $135. You can buy one just like it on line for less than $20.What a rip...[/citation]

To be accurate most cables cost less than $2 in reality. When I worked at best buy the $35 usb cable or $20 cat 5 cable cost only $1.5 with my employee discount.
 

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What's the point in having a drive that supports multiple cable types if it doesn't come with the cables? Just buy whatever type you need. The only reason I could see this being useful is if you are using machines that have different types of connections (say one machine has usb3 and another only has usb2 but has firewire or esata) and even this it is marginally useful.
 

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It doesn't matter, it's a Seagate drive. It's going to crash and eat your data before you ever need a second type of cable. You are better off writing your 0's and 1's on the beach with a stick than you are putting them on a Seagate.
 

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The 7200 RPM Pro Ultra-portable drive however only comes in 500GB, and sports a cool "intelligent" dock and premium backup software
. The drive arrives in both 1TB and 2TB flavors, and also comes pre-installed with backup software
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So 500GB, 1TB and 2TB?
 

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When I read "Universal" I thought it meant with the filing system. Big drives like this must use NTFS (can't realistically use Fat32 for TB-sized disks, and nothing else is supported by Windows). Drive manufactures need to come up with their own file format.

It has worked with disc formats like CD & DVD. I mean, we aren't talking about OS-disks that might need special features based on the OS installed (I mean, I'm sure Microsoft has some reason it uses NTFS, other than it's whole anti-free policy). These are storage disks, pure and simple. We just need a basic file system that is universally readable and writeable and does enough for archiving and file sharing.

And before you say "what's wrong with NTFS", remember this, its a closed file system, and Linux/Mac/etc.. can only read it because someone spent a lot of time reverse engineering the file system to come up with 3rd-party drivers. Microsoft has never published the details to NTFS.
 

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Dude, if people really cared about standardizing a file system the easiest thing would be to simply adopt one of the plenty of open standards. Such as EXT3 and whatnot which are fully documented and free to use.

It'd be great if you could use that externally - and on consoles.
 
[citation][nom]hellwig[/nom]When I read "Universal" I thought it meant with the filing system. Big drives like this must use NTFS (can't realistically use Fat32 for TB-sized disks, and nothing else is supported by Windows). Drive manufactures need to come up with their own file format.It has worked with disc formats like CD & DVD. I mean, we aren't talking about OS-disks that might need special features based on the OS installed (I mean, I'm sure Microsoft has some reason it uses NTFS, other than it's whole anti-free policy). These are storage disks, pure and simple. We just need a basic file system that is universally readable and writeable and does enough for archiving and file sharing.And before you say "what's wrong with NTFS", remember this, its a closed file system, and Linux/Mac/etc.. can only read it because someone spent a lot of time reverse engineering the file system to come up with 3rd-party drivers. Microsoft has never published the details to NTFS.[/citation]
Not to mention that it's an old file system by today's standard. It would be SO much simpler if Windows/OSX just adopted ext4,etc.
 

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"Universal" is pretty much false. Its just a drive with... get this... THREE different interface cables (if not two).

A USB 3.0 connector will use a USB 2.0 cable... so two USB connectors are not really needed.

Lets see... I've picked up a Vantec eSATA & USB 2.0 external case for $40 and it includes eSATA and USB 2.0 cables. With USB 3.0 being new, so that should be about $20~30 for the controller & cable.
 

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Or, instead of buying their overpriced piece of garbage that doesn't even include all supported cables in the box I can just go out and buy an external device that has separate USB, Firewire, and eSATA ports. They are out there. I could also just buy an empty enclosure with whatever connectivity options I want and buy a bare drive to put in there.
This seems very consumer un-friendly.
 
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I recently bought a Seagate 1T external drive. The good points are that it was pre-formatted and ready to use, and has worked fine so far. The only thing I do not like about it is that it doesn't have an On/Off switch.

My previous external drives (500g and 750g) were built from Samsung drives in external cases. They have on/off switches and are only used when transferring data on or off the drives. The Seagate drive has to switched off at the power strip.

I've had a good run with Seagate drives with only 1 out of 8 ever failing. That drive had the faulty partition formatted and reinstalled, and is still working after 8 years (6 years since the failure). Samsung drives are now my preferred drives as they use fewer platters and run cooler.
 
[citation][nom]seraphimcaduto[/nom]any chance the lovely people at monoprice will come to the rescue?[/citation]

That's where I buy audio and video cables for a very very reasonable price. I first learned about their inexpensive cables through PC Magazine reviews.
 

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"re. The drive arrives in both 1TB and 2TB flavors, and also comes pre-installe"

needs to be corrected to the desk external drive.

Also, makes sense to have this solution. Most of those not technically competent to put a drive in a dock, can use this, because it is just clip on and use. For those of us who can, we wouldnt get this. Its a good move esp for the company as their production is much more simple now -> cheaper too! maintain a single line of drives and various lines of connectors. for consumers the bright side is their drive would never get outdated really because snap on a new connector and they're sorted!
 

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